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Originally Posted by Axaion View Post

I used my DX with HD555's (modded but anyhow..) and there is almost no sound difference between the two cards, specially as if you want the higher quality audio, you use the line out, and not headphone out

youre better off getting an amp for the DX, specially if you dont want to pay 100usd for the SBX software


...Also i got a nasty channel bug with headphone out which makes me unable to use binarual sounds, and i have the version with gold caps too :'(

Hi Axaion,
thanks for your reply.
I think (i'm not home right now), that Dx only have line out jack.
From what i read, dx don't have headphone amp, so that's why it sounds bassy\muffled with hd 558 (one of the main reasons i changed from a hd 439 to this model, was the neutral for gaming), and probably with an amp (exterior or in an built in card) would give me better sound.
i'm not sure if what i'm saying is understandable, but in your opinion wouldn't i benefit from a sound card with built in amp, since the output impedance would be better then dx? (I'm only using with headphones)

Opinions needed please:)
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Hi Axaion,
thanks for your reply.
I think (i'm not home right now), that Dx only have line out jack.
From what i read, dx don't have headphone amp, so that's why it sounds bassy\muffled with hd 558 (one of the main reasons i changed from a hd 439 to this model, was the neutral for gaming), and probably with an amp (exterior or in an built in card) would give me better sound.
i'm not sure if what i'm saying is understandable, but in your opinion wouldn't i benefit from a sound card with built in amp, since the output impedance would be better then dx? (I'm only using with headphones)

Opinions needed please:)

Youd benefit from a soundcard with an amp, just not the Z or Zx, in my experience they actually have more bass than the DX, and i have to turn it down to 14% instead of 24% on the DX or line-out on the Z.

The only reason to get the Z or Zx is because of the SBX software - if youre not specifically going for that, id strongly advise an amp instead of a new sound card.
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Youd benefit from a soundcard with an amp, just not the Z or Zx, in my experience they actually have more bass than the DX, and i have to turn it down to 14% instead of 24% on the DX or line-out on the Z.

The only reason to get the Z or Zx is because of the SBX software - if youre not specifically going for that, id strongly advise an amp instead of a new sound card.

Well with hd 558, i can't turn volume more than 25% (max), because it's too loud..
Didn't know creative z had more bass than dx..
I never used sbx software, since my first and only card is the asus one..
Don't know exactly what i should do....
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Well with hd 558, i can't turn volume more than 25% (max), because it's too loud..
Didn't know creative z had more bass than dx..
I never used sbx software, since my first and only card is the asus one..
Don't know exactly what i should do....

The Z doesn't have more bass than the DX, nor does it have the equalizer set to more bass even by default

Its because the the entire Z series, which has been aimed more at the audiophile territory, has powerful amps in it, and bass is one of the hardest things for a underpowered sound card to push, the whole z series can do 600ohm headphones, so that's more than enough power to drive bass
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The Z doesn't have more bass than the DX, nor does it have the equalizer set to more bass even by default

Its because the the entire Z series, which has been aimed more at the audiophile territory, has powerful amps in it, and bass is one of the hardest things for a underpowered sound card to push, the whole z series can do 600ohm headphones, so that's more than enough power to drive bass

Hi ShamisOMally,

Thanfor the explanation. So the z series would be a good bet?
Also if I choose this model, what are the differences between the normal version and the bulk one? (besides coming without the box/software?)
Thanks in advance
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Unless you really want the SBX, software, get an AMP tbh.

Bulk one does not have the shield.
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Unless you really want the SBX, software, get an AMP tbh.

Bulk one does not have the shield.
Thanks once again for your opinion Axaion smile.gif I'm on a short budget right now. I was thinking on buying an amp (EHP-O2), but it's too expensive for me right now (+\- 100€ - 137$).
My budget is around 80€ (110$), so i was plannig to sell my card for about maybe 30€ (40$), and getting a creative z.. but i guess maybe i'll save some money for the amp... Not sure yet what to do..
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Just get the Z, don't bother the Zx unless you really want that volume controller.

 
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I am wondering what the best way to connect my Creative Z to my Schitt Valhalla is?

I am hoping to be able to retain the "software surround" for gaming, and then being able to disable that for music.

I would guess it is not a good idea to run the headphone out as that is amped?

So would the front speaker out work?

Is there anyway to have my A2+ speakers connected to the sound card at the same time, so I can switch between?
The problem I foresee is the Valhalla taking up the front out, so I may just need to manually switch...

Obviously if I can connect the Valhalla to the headphone out I would be all set.
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hanzy, you could use a audio switch(er) between your card and the amp.
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