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You can replace the DAC's on the ZXR?

I actually bought a stand alone for my Audioengine A5+ powered speaker system - Audioengine D1 DAC. But just recently replaced it with a high end DAC from Teac (UD-503) because I wanted something better, and it has a far better headphone amp. With that the only time I need to touch the ZXR card is for gaming where the ZXR is designed for gaming.

If it wasn't for gaming I'd completely dump the ZXR as I don't need it for music since both DACs use USB to port music over. That said, I do use ZXR's DBPro to connect "digitally" at times but it's really not needed, and is actually inferior to the USB connection of the Teac DAC due to its design. The Teac is designed to get better sound quality form the USB side when connected to a PC. For Windows PC's you'll need to install a special driver from Teac for the unit to work.
Edited by sygnus21 - 2/26/16 at 11:20am
post #4112 of 5643
With the suddenly worsened random headphone switch bug I'm seriously considering ditching this card.

Only problem is there's very little other options with decent quality, and PCCaseGear just straight-out don't sell soundcards anymore. Not even any creative or asus DACs, only standard headphone DACs (audioengine)...
   
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I've been using Creative's SoundBlaster cards since the AWE64 Gold back in 1998 to their ZXR, but I'm afraid their time with me may have come to an end due to their continued abysmal driver support. It seem to me Creative has taken the attitude of forcing users to purchase new cards in order to overcome driver issues with the previous models, especially when a new OS is released. And if you do get a new driver release it's never in a timely manner and issues may still exist. Their driver support is simply horrendous.

That said, lurking in one of the Hi-Fi forums I discovered that Creative actually released a DAC called the SoundBlaster X7 which looks really good and got a great review here. What's cool about it is it also does gaming and multi-channel support. I'd never get one though as I simply don't trust Creative anymore with regards to driver support. Plus as a purely music DAC, I don't think it'll touch my Teac UD-503.

Oh, and there are other less expensive good DACs out there for those looking to go that route, you just have to research and decide on what you want in one. Example if you've got powered speakers the Audioengine D1 DAC at $169 is great for music; however, if headphones support is important, especially high end types, look elsewhere.

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The X7 is not worth the current price IMO, but my current target is about exactly what it provides with an internal speaker amp as optional.
Problem with options from ASUS as well is said company cant make software for crap, so they're likely in the same bag as creative...
   
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The X7 is not worth the current price IMO, but my current target is about exactly what it provides with an internal speaker amp as optional.
Problem with options from ASUS as well is said company cant make software for crap, so they're likely in the same bag as creative...

I agree with all you have mentioned and the same with the person above. The X7 is way overpriced. I think it was during the holidays last year that they had a huge discount on almost all of their products. The X7 was between $100 to $150 less but still not worth it in my eyes. I could have sworn that I have seen either a MB or a soundcard that has changeable DAC's but I have not been able to relocate what I saw.

As far as ASUS goes. So far my track record with them on software is miles above my experience with Creative and their software. I have a Rampage IV Black Ed MB and I use the included AI suite. I have had no problems whatsoever with the AI suite though I only use the BIOS to OC and not any software.

With a registry hack I was able to get rid of that pop crack. But I have noticed there seems to be no difference between the two DTS: Neo options of Cinema mode and music mode. I haven't really tested it out much but I used to notice the difference pretty easily.....
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sadly asus has a very ****ty record on both quality controll and drivers lately for pretty much everything they produce if you don't have problems it's great to take away from my monitor experience with them if it wasn't for amazon i'd still have dead pixels in very weird positions and backlight bleed i returned the replacement in the end since that one had the backlight bleed / 5 smeared pixels my current one MG279q has 1 dead in a position you only notice if you look for it and one halfdead one (blue or green is dead i can't remember it's been 6months since i tested it)

but stuff like that should not happen on a frequent basis on a 600$ screen sadly if you look at the reviews by people for the MG279q it's down to lottery if you got dead pixels / backlight bleed or not
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sadly asus has a very ****ty record on both quality controll and drivers lately for pretty much everything they produce if you don't have problems it's great to take away from my monitor experience with them if it wasn't for amazon i'd still have dead pixels in very weird positions and backlight bleed i returned the replacement in the end since that one had the backlight bleed / 5 smeared pixels my current one MG279q has 1 dead in a position you only notice if you look for it and one halfdead one (blue or green is dead i can't remember it's been 6months since i tested it)

but stuff like that should not happen on a frequent basis on a 600$ screen sadly if you look at the reviews by people for the MG279q it's down to lottery if you got dead pixels / backlight bleed or not
I have heard that about their monitors in general. WHich is one of the reasons I got an AOC gsync monitor another reason is it was also $50 cheaper). I agree on moving away from a company if you have frequent problems with their products. But this is not easy to do with sound cards because I have had great experiences with Sound Blaster over many years and not to mention it is very difficult to find anything with the same specs and features for the same price......
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The X7 is not worth the current price IMO, but my current target is about exactly what it provides with an internal speaker amp as optional.
Problem with options from ASUS as well is said company cant make software for crap, so they're likely in the same bag as creative...

I just mentioned it as another option. Haven't really looked at it from a price to performance comparison.

As for Asus, I won't touch their PC products (well I did buy an Asus laptop) because I don't trust their customer service. As a system builder building high end gaming rigs and like their motherboards but won't touch them because of their bad rep on customer service. I'll also add that I wasn't thrilled with their CS when I needed to get a replacement power supply for my Asus laptop. In the end I wound up purchasing a replacement because of the BS they put me through, and wanted me to go through just to get a replacement. This further enhanced my resolve of never buying any of their products.

At any rate, from what I understand, Asus may have issues with CS, but driver support isn't / wasn't one of them, so...

And yeah, the soundcard market is pretty limited with Creative dominating there so it's pretty much Creative, Asus, or bust. I myself have never used anything but Creative's cards. However for my next build I'll pretty much stick with the MB's integrated card and use my DAC system for music.
Edited by sygnus21 - 2/28/16 at 2:19pm
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@madmaxneo the only other option that ticked all the boxes for the screen i wanted sadly has even worse problems even though they use the same exact panel don't ask me how lol.

but i do know asus has issues with certain things @ their audiocards not going to say creative is flawless but i'll take their custom drivers over asus
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@madmaxneo the only other option that ticked all the boxes for the screen i wanted sadly has even worse problems even though they use the same exact panel don't ask me how lol.

but i do know asus has issues with certain things @ their audiocards not going to say creative is flawless but i'll take their custom drivers over asus
I did not know ASUS also had issues with their soundcards as well. Since I first got into OCing 2 years ago I have notice a horrible trend in mostly great products and horrible customer service.
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