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on sound control panel set to 48khz ?
or try the Dolby digital live ?

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got a question :
is it okay to set hig gain 600ohm foor my dt 770pro 250 ?
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got a question :
is it okay to set hig gain 600ohm foor my dt 770pro 250 ?

It should be. I have mine set to 600ohm with my 32 ohm Grado's. If I leave in on the 32 ohm setting I have to have the volume up a minimum of half way to get any volume out of them. On the 600 ohm setting it seems about right.
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I dont know if thats a good idea setting the gain to 600 ohm. You are not magically going to get better sound.

Your DT 770 is 250 ohm, well within the range of the first gain setting which is 32 - 300 ohm. I have the same headphones as you and I have the first gain setting and at 50% volume, it is extremely loud. I don't see a reason why you would want to set them higher. The headphones will pull the sufficient amount of voltage required with the first setting. While it may be louder, you are giving it more voltage than needed if I understand correctly, hence why I do not recommend it.

Take a trip over to HEAD FI and look up some explanations on this and you will understand why. Some good reads just for the sake of it too. Especially since you have a decent set of cans, doesn't hurt to know more.
    
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You may just have to play with the settings. If the 32-300 setting is loud enough then you should be ok. For my headphones the 32-300 setting was too low even though my headphones are technically rated at 32 ohms. I could turn up the volume level to half way with very little difference in actual volume.
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You might hear a difference in improved sound quality, but IMO... it's not worth the difference you hear. DT990s are fantastic cans, but soundcards cap out in the mid-range products and flagship products are really only minute in a quality increase.

You want to upgrade, go for an external DAC + a tube amp. That's where the upgrade is, the Zx > ZxR is just a sidegrade.

Sorry, I don't really follow (not that knowledgeable in this stuff). Granted, I know what a DAC is for, but would an external one really make that much of a difference over the "upgrade" to a ZXR? Also, if I have an external DAC, why would I need an amp (I thought a DAC is both?).

So are you suggesting that I get a really good DAC and hook it up to the optical port on my Soundblaster ZX? Would I still get the audio processing features (like 3D surround for gaming) that way? Also, what kind of DAC are we talking about here? I've heard nothing but great things about Fiio. Something like this or better?

http://www.amazon.com/Fiio-E17-USB-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B0070UFMOW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1374097618&sr=8-1&keywords=fiio+e17

So many questions but I'm getting so many answers so really thank you smile.gif

And about the DT 990's. I can agree with you, these are the nicest pair of headphones I've ever owned. But at a certain volume that scratchy "blown speaker" sound really gets noticeable, and the actual sound is distorted a little. I thought the ZX would be able to handle 250 ohms, but I guess not. Which is the reason I'm looking to upgrade even more.
Edited by apav - 7/17/13 at 2:56pm
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You may just have to play with the settings. If the 32-300 setting is loud enough then you should be ok. For my headphones the 32-300 setting was too low even though my headphones are technically rated at 32 ohms. I could turn up the volume level to half way with very little difference in actual volume.

Look, the DT 770 pros have a power max handle of 100 mw. The zxr outputs 80 mW max at 600 ohm(realistic its actually 50-60 mW). So at 250 ohm it would output more than double that easily putting in past the 100 mW range.

From what I can gather, it outputs all this power expecting a 600 ohm umpedence but instead gets 250 ohm impedence and ends up giving way more than what the dt 770 can take (100mW). The impedence setting is basically a gain toggle, and giving it higher gain coukd damage the driver if it were played loud enough.

Your Grados might be able to take a lot more power but his beyers cannot.

I don't think damaged headphone risk is worth the higher volume levels.

Something has to be wrong with your grados for them to be that low in volume. Either that or they are a really bad impedence mismatch for this card.
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Sorry, I don't really follow (not that knowledgeable in this stuff). Granted, I know what a DAC is for, but would an external one really make that much of a difference over the "upgrade" to a ZXR? Also, if I have an external DAC, why would I need an amp (I thought a DAC is both?).

So are you suggesting that I get a really good DAC and hook it up to the optical port on my Soundblaster ZX? Would I still get the audio processing features (like 3D surround for gaming) that way? Also, what kind of DAC are we talking about here? I've heard nothing but great things about Fiio. Something like this or better?

http://www.amazon.com/Fiio-E17-USB-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B0070UFMOW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1374097618&sr=8-1&keywords=fiio+e17

So many questions but I'm getting so many answers so really thank you smile.gif

And about the DT 990's. I can agree with you, these are the nicest pair of headphones I've ever owned. But at a certain volume that scratchy "blown speaker" sound really gets noticeable, and the actual sound is distorted a little. I thought the ZX would be able to handle 250 ohms, but I guess not. Which is the reason I'm looking to upgrade even more.

It can handle 250 ohms but the maxis headamp doesn't give enough wattage at that impedence to properly power the DT 990.

That zxr would be more capable of powering it. Not to mention the better DAC.
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It can handle 250 ohms but the maxis headamp doesn't give enough wattage at that resistance to properly power the DT 990.

That zxr would be more capable of powering it. Not to mention the better DAC.

Would you also agree that a good DAC would be a better upgrade than the ZXR?
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Not really since you won't find a better DAC for this price point. If you want to shell out much more than probably yes.
    
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any one own the Blaster Z have trouble using the front Mic port? Mine doesn't detect the mic on the front port but the rear port works.... Headphone on the front works..
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