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What sound card do you recommend then?
As a side note I did my research and it seems every sound card has issues. The Z series of cards actually have less issues than the others. I recommend the Zx or even the ZxR over any other as they are also normally cheaper than other comparative cards. My Zx is working great.
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As a side note I did my research and it seems every sound card has issues. The Z series of cards actually have less issues than the others. I recommend the Zx or even the ZxR over any other as they are also normally cheaper than other comparative cards. My Zx is working great.

Why get a Zx over the Z?
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The Zx has the ACM (audio control module) that @DmxDex would use with his head set.
Otherwise there is no difference between the two cards.
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The Zx has the ACM (audio control module) that @DmxDex would use with his head set.
Otherwise there is no difference between the two cards.

Yeah that's what I remembered, although I've read that plugging headphones into the ACM reduces sound quality compared to a straight connection to the sound card.

Speaking in general now, a used X-Fi Titanium HD can also be a great option, as it usually costs around what the Zx costs, or in between the price of the Z and Zx, and the DAC portion is pretty much the same as the ZxR. It lacks a headphone amp though, and doesn't allow for an analog 5.1 setup but then again I would never plug a surround setup straight into a sound card.
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Does the audio sound fine when double amping the Z's headphone out using an external amp (like the O2) with a low impedance headphone (i.e., 25-ohms Denon AH-D7000)?

Thx!
Just wanted to update my situation in case someone have same concern, I bought the Z card and double amped it np, just need to lower windows volume to 60%. I kept the O2 amp volume knob around 50%. otherwise ok!
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Originally Posted by Paul17041993 View Post

Anything relatively simple that wont suffer from driver bugs, if you're just going to use headphones and/or stereo speakers then just get a USB DAC. Then just use the APO I previously mentioned for customisation.

It's entirely possible however to run many soundcards with their most basic level drivers, but you'll loose the ability to switch the output between headphones and speakers, among other little things.

That all being said though, I might put this Zx into my workstation in the city and see how it goes there...

I dont think a dac is ideal for me when gaming. And i would like some sort of surround from my headset
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Just wanted to update my situation in case someone have same concern, I bought the Z card and double amped it np, just need to lower windows volume to 60%. I kept the O2 amp volume knob around 50%. otherwise ok!
Awesome, double amp! But is there no distortion or odd sounds with that?
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I dont think a dac is ideal for me when gaming. And i would like some sort of surround from my headset
I think you would be well served with the Z or Zx card. I myself am looking to upgrade to the ZxR soon enough. I just have to catch it at the right time on Massdrop.
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Yeah that's what I remembered, although I've read that plugging headphones into the ACM reduces sound quality compared to a straight connection to the sound card.

Speaking in general now, a used X-Fi Titanium HD can also be a great option, as it usually costs around what the Zx costs, or in between the price of the Z and Zx, and the DAC portion is pretty much the same as the ZxR. It lacks a headphone amp though, and doesn't allow for an analog 5.1 setup but then again I would never plug a surround setup straight into a sound card.

The ACM is a cable and potentiometer, it basically has the same affect as a long headphone cable, which is nothing unless you have a specific set of cans that are very sensitive to additional resistance.

I also support the X-Fi option as they generally have rock solid base drivers from the community support packages, however I'd still avoid the additional things such as EAX or the control panel as they can still be erratic.
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I dont think a dac is ideal for me when gaming. And i would like some sort of surround from my headset

I'm not aware of any virtual surround methods that actually work, for the most part you're better off letting the application work it out with its own methods, developed by engineers that specialise in how the sound effects should sound in that particular game.

Though actual speakers will do a much better job for surround regardless as the human brain utilises the entire body to work out sounds and their locations, somewhat why headphones sound "bland"
to some of us.


That all said; You can still pick up a Z or Zx if its a decent price and try it out.
   
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The ACM is a cable and potentiometer, it basically has the same affect as a long headphone cable, which is nothing unless you have a specific set of cans that are very sensitive to additional resistance.

I also support the X-Fi option as they generally have rock solid base drivers from the community support packages, however I'd still avoid the additional things such as EAX or the control panel as they can still be erratic.
I'm not aware of any virtual surround methods that actually work, for the most part you're better off letting the application work it out with its own methods, developed by engineers that specialise in how the sound effects should sound in that particular game.

Though actual speakers will do a much better job for surround regardless as the human brain utilises the entire body to work out sounds and their locations, somewhat why headphones sound "bland"
to some of us.


That all said; You can still pick up a Z or Zx if its a decent price and try it out.
I am not sure if the headphones @DmxDex cans are surround sound capable but the ones I have are. I have the Turtle Beach XP 510's hooked up through my PC and the surround sound is really good in these cans. But for surround sound to work I have to run an optical cable to the transmitter unit from my sound card. Consequently I am using my onboard optical out because the Zx optical out is being used for my z906 speakers.....
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Awesome, double amp! But is there no distortion or odd sounds with that?
not at all, sound clean!
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