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Originally Posted by umeng2002 View Post

OK, scratch that.

It seems you can get 96 kHz out from the optical port when using the Windows "Speaker" device instead of the SPDIF device.

The TRICK is that you NEED to set the Windows SPDIF device to 96 kHz as the shared sample rate.

But there seems to be a bug too.

I play a 96 kHz audio in WASAPI mode and it plays at 96 kHz, but then I play a lower rate file in shared mode and it stays at 96 kHz.

When I play a 48 or 41 kHz file in WASAPI mode, it goes back to the respective 48 or 41 kHz,

It's like it only remembers the LAST sample rate it played in WASAPI mode.

ie. The SPDIF output rate is what guides the TOSLINK (optical) output's output rate NOT the selected sample rate for the "Speakers."

Depending on the WASAPI mode you use and the particular application's implementation, it will temporarily override the output format. This is both good and bad and depends on the DAC in use, some handle low bitrates nicely and others prefer software up-sampling.

Mind you if you're deaf to 16kHz and above then you shouldn't hear a difference...
   
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Originally Posted by Paul17041993 View Post

Depending on the WASAPI mode you use and the particular application's implementation, it will temporarily override the output format. This is both good and bad and depends on the DAC in use, some handle low bitrates nicely and others prefer software up-sampling.

Mind you if you're deaf to 16kHz and above then you shouldn't hear a difference...

Yeah, that's what I count on, but when I go back and play something in Shared mode through the "Speakers" device in Windows, my DAC still reads 96 kHz.

It's like it get's "stuck" on what ever the last sample rate was that the "SPDIF-Out" device used... no matter what the "Speakers'" shared mode setting is.

What this means for me is that if I use Foobar2000 for listening to my FLAC rips and quit to play a game or watch a movie, the card is STILL outputting 44.1 kHz instead of 48 kHz, which is what I set for Shared mode of both the "Speakers" and "SPDIF-Out."

I need to go back and play the Windows Test sounds at 48 kHz on the "SPDIF-Out" to get the optical output back to 48 kHz.

It's sort of annoying because my little Dot DAC_I has a known bug where it displays 44.1 kHz if it receives 44.1 kHz OR 48 kHz (96 and 192 display properly).

Maybe I should try that SBz helper program...
Edited by umeng2002 - 10/7/16 at 3:58am
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post #4733 of 5642
I'll see what is says on my DAC in various scenarios.

I've got the SMSL M6.

Apparently via usb it can support up to 384kHz. But I'm pretty sure Tidal which markets itself as having hidef tracks is still only 44.1kHz
post #4734 of 5642
Hi, I'm new to this forum. So I saw the zxr on massdrop for 174.99 if it gets enough people. I was wondering if this is a pretty good price and how the performance is now in 2016. I am wondering because I saw drivers that are still from 2015, while the zx has drivers in 2016. I am looking at a sound card because I don't have the desk space for a DAC and amp. Sorry for the lack in grammar, im writing this in class and not really paying attention.
post #4735 of 5642
I say definitely go for it for that price. And thanks for bringing it up. I haven't checked massdrop for a while.
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Hi, I'm new to this forum. So I saw the zxr on massdrop for 174.99 if it gets enough people. I was wondering if this is a pretty good price and how the performance is now in 2016. I am wondering because I saw drivers that are still from 2015, while the zx has drivers in 2016. I am looking at a sound card because I don't have the desk space for a DAC and amp. Sorry for the lack in grammar, im writing this in class and not really paying attention.

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I say definitely go for it for that price. And thanks for bringing it up. I haven't checked massdrop for a while.

Yeah that pops up on Massdrop every so often. It is a great deal and I may partake in it sometime in the future.
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Yeah, that's what I count on, but when I go back and play something in Shared mode through the "Speakers" device in Windows, my DAC still reads 96 kHz.

It's like it get's "stuck" on what ever the last sample rate was that the "SPDIF-Out" device used... no matter what the "Speakers'" shared mode setting is.

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I need to go back and play the Windows Test sounds at 48 kHz on the "SPDIF-Out" to get the optical output back to 48 kHz.

It's sort of annoying because my little Dot DAC_I has a known bug where it displays 44.1 kHz if it receives 44.1 kHz OR 48 kHz (96 and 192 display properly).

Maybe I should try that SBz helper program...

Shared mode should use the default format, but if the device doesn't reset to the default format after a temporary override then that's a (windows) bug.
   
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Anyone have any experience with the ZxR with DT990 Pro 250 ohm headphones?
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Shared mode should use the default format, but if the device doesn't reset to the default format after a temporary override then that's a (windows) bug.

Yeah, I just noticed this too since I normally have my DAC's read-out taped over since it's so bloody bright.

Edit: I also tried the older Win10 drivers from 2015, and the issue is still there.

The sample rate output over optical stays on the last sample rate used by the "SPDIF-Out" device (shared or exclusive mode) and just seems to ignore the "Speakers'" device setting. Even using the the "Speakers" in the exclusive mode doesn't do a thing.

Internally, I'm sure the audio is being rendered at the common or exclusive mode settings for the "Speakers," but when it gets handed off to the Optical output, there is another conversion going on.

What is odd too, is that it will remember this last rate (say 96 kHz) during a soft computer reset. But if I shutdown and start the computer or put it to sleep and wake-up, the sample rate will return to the "SPDIF-Out" to 48 kHz (or 44.1 kHz - can't tell again because of my DAC's bug).

for all I know, this could just be a bug for 96 kHz... I'll see if some of my other equipment can tell me the diff between 44.1 and 48...
Edited by umeng2002 - 10/9/16 at 6:37am
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Anyone tried out the Soundblaster G5 who also had a Z/ZXR? I have been seeing some reviews suggesting its got an enhanced SBX mode in it and represents another step in binaural audio and it includes 7.1 channels as well. Curious as to whether its improved the surround sound effect in headphones at all.
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