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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post

Those are simple misunderstandings.  I was referring to the X-750 because it was being recommended.

The lack of cables, I was referring to the 620W SeaSonic M12II that his friend can sell to him.

Do you have any other examples?

I think those two may have been enough misstatements to steer the OP away from the X-650.

Nobody had even mentioned the X-750 at that time you wrote this:

"The X-650 is certainly a much, much, much better PSU, but it's $135 after shipping. Plus, I feel that it's very overkill on quality for air-cooled overclocking."


You explicitly were replying to me about the X-650 when you made the statement about the cables. Nothing was said about the M12II. I said:

"If you ever decide to SLI in another GTX 670 you may come up short. I would go with the X-650 (or X-750). In addition to giving you some headroom, the X-650 is a newer (2012) improved model and has a 7 year warranty.
Well looks like my advice is a little too late"

and you replied quoting me:

"It'll be enough, but it won't have enough PCI-E connectors and so he'll be forced to use adapters".
post #52 of 60
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Originally Posted by GeneO View Post


I think those two may have been enough misstatements to steer the OP away from the X-650.
Nobody had even mentioned the X-750 at that time you wrote this:
"The X-650 is certainly a much, much, much better PSU, but it's $135 after shipping. Plus, I feel that it's very overkill on quality for air-cooled overclocking."
You explicitly were replying to me about the X-650 when you made the statement about the cables.

 

Oh, then please forgive me for being an imperfect human being.  I can see now that I looked up the X-750.  I was probably tired.  Can you ever forgive me for not being absolutely perfect?  Good grief.

 

 

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Nothing was said about the M12II. I said:
"If you ever decide to SLI in another GTX 670 you may come up short. I would go with the X-650 (or X-750). In addition to giving you some headroom, the X-650 is a newer (2012) improved model and has a 7 year warranty.
Well looks like my advice is a little too late"
and you replied quoting me:
"It'll be enough, but it won't have enough PCI-E connectors and so he'll be forced to use adapters".

 

No, I was talking about the M12II.  I know I was.  That's why I said that.  Do I need to take the time to prove it?

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post #53 of 60
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Oh, then please forgive me for being an imperfect human being.  I can see now that I looked up the X-750.  I was probably tired.  Can you ever forgive me for not being absolutely perfect?  Good grief.



No, I was talking about the M12II.  I know I was.  That's why I said that.

Can you stop now?

Yeah, this is my last post. You may have thought we were talking about the M112IIm, but you were replying to me about the X-650.

I am sorry, but you said if you posted something, you were absolutely certain it was 100% fact. Yes, nobody is perfect.
post #54 of 60
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Yeah, this is my last post. You may have thought we were talking about the M112IIm, but you were replying to me about the X-650.
I am sorry, but you said if you posted something, you were absolutely certain it was 100% fact. Yes, nobody is perfect.

 

Exactly.  Nobody is perfect.  You're not perfect, so stop coming down on others for being imperfect until you yourself have become perfect.  Thank you.  The nerve of some people...

 

Now, I will prove that I was talking about the M12II.  I'll post a new reply soon.

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post #55 of 60
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Exactly.  Nobody is perfect.  You're not perfect, so stop coming down on others for being imperfect until you yourself have become perfect.  Thank you.  The nerve of some people...

Now, I will prove that I was talking about the M12II.  I'll post a new reply soon.

I wasn't coming down on you and I am certainly not perfect and give some bad advice sometimes.

I would like to see that proof.

I thought you wanted to end this. I asked some time ago if we could just agree to disagree, but you would not let it go.
post #56 of 60

First, I mentioned that he would need Molex to PCI-E adapters if he wanted to have two 670s:

 

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Then the 620W M12II would force you to use Molex to PCI-E adapters for the 2nd card because it has 1 x 6-pin, and 1 x 6+2-pin.  That's only enough for one 670.

 

So, the modular version of the 650W Rosewill CAPSTONE Series might still be the best for $109.99 shipped because it has 4 x 6+2-pin cables:

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182263

 

So if you are 100% sure you'll get another 670 instead of just selling the 670 and getting something like the GTX 780 or whatever it is by that time, then this is the PSU I will recommend.

 

 

 

 

 

A little later, he said he's going to get the M12II (he said he will just have one 670 for a while anyway, so it's no big deal):

 

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Alright I'll just get the M12II. Thanks for the help guys!

 

 

 

 

When you said your advice was too late, I had the impression that you felt the 620 M12II would be fine in all respect even with two 670s.  So, I wanted to make another mention about the cables:

 

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It'll be enough, but it won't have enough PCI-E connectors and so he'll be forced to use adapters.

 

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_670_2_and_3way_sli_review,4.html

 

With two GTX 670s under full load in their system, their PSU pulled 433W from the wall outlet.  Their CPU was idling, so I have to add about 150W for an overclocked 3570K under full load, and this makes the PSU pulling 583w from the wall outlet.  So if the PSU is 85% efficient while pulling 583W from the wall outlet, then that means the system is pulling 495W from the PSU.

 

;)

 

So there you have it.

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post #57 of 60
OK, why don;t you post the whole thing instead of cutting out the quote of mine you were replying to? You snipped two posts together and left out the middle - that is just not honest - talk about nerve. I accept you may have been confused as to what you were replying to, nobody is perfect as you said. This is getting just stupid.

Here is your fiull post in which you quoted me:

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If you ever decide to SLI in another GTX 670 you may come up short. I would go with the X-650 (or X-750). In addition to giving you some headroom, the X-650 is a newer (2012) improved model and has a 7 year warranty.
Well looks like my advice is a little too late biggrin.gif



It'll be enough, but it won't have enough PCI-E connectors and so he'll be forced to use adapters.



http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_670_2_and_3way_sli_review,4.html



With two GTX 670s under full load in their system, their PSU pulled 433W from the wall outlet. Their CPU was idling, so I have to add about 150W for an overclocked 3570K under full load, and this makes the PSU pulling 583w from the wall outlet. So if the PSU is 85% efficient while pulling 583W from the wall outlet, then that means the system is pulling 495W from the PSU.



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Edited by GeneO - 12/16/12 at 4:34pm
post #58 of 60

It was stupid when you started this mess.  I was hoping that my last post would have finished it.

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OK, I am outa here. This has gone too far. Anybody can read the posts and decide for themselves. Later.
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Yep.

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