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post #11 of 34
Bump it to an RX360 kit and you got yourself a really nice rad, that can handle what you are planning to do.

In a perfect world (this is just my opinion) I would use 2 rads when cooling a GPU and CPU. Put a 360 after the GPU, and a 240 after the CPU, that way when you OC you have enough cooling capacity.

The XSPC kits are good, and will be a good start.
post #12 of 34
Galvanic corrosion can even occur between brass and copper which are very close to each other in the galvanic index table, just try to leave your brass/copper radiator with some water in it for a few weeks and you will see it yourself.
Regardless what I wrote above, I would go for the nickel too, as most of the WC'd systems are built for look and depreciation in performance between pure copper and copper nickel plated is not great enough to make much difference in well setup loop smile.gif

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Yeah, that's what I'm thinking... I'd really want a mechanical keyboard.
I'm already buying new ram and an SSD, and my budget is 500€, which leaves 300€ so it's either mechanical keyboard and 200€ something.
Or no mechanical keyboard and water cooling :/

I'm really surprised the prices haven't changed in like 10 years or something lol.
At the rate air cooling is advancing I would've assumed water cooling is going down in prices. (Considering you can get a 50€ air cooler which performs as well as h100 or something).
Why would you prefer the kit over custom? I don't believe I'd have any problems installing it, it's really just about the parts.
I like the reservoir of the kit, and the block ain't that bad but the EK is still nicer.
How are the included fans in the kit?
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post #14 of 34
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Yeah, that's what I'm thinking... I'd really want a mechanical keyboard.
I'm already buying new ram and an SSD, and my budget is 500€, which leaves 300€ so it's either mechanical keyboard and 200€ something.
Or no mechanical keyboard and water cooling :/

I'm really surprised the prices haven't changed in like 10 years or something lol.
At the rate air cooling is advancing I would've assumed water cooling is going down in prices. (Considering you can get a 50€ air cooler which performs as well as h100 or something).
Why would you prefer the kit over custom? I don't believe I'd have any problems installing it, it's really just about the parts.
I like the reservoir of the kit, and the block ain't that bad but the EK is still nicer.
How are the included fans in the kit?

I think you have answered your own question here... Because the air cooling has advanced so much not many people move to WC that gives the manufacturers of WC only a a very narrow part of PC users to sell they products to. Obviously they need to make profit, so will be charging that narrow population whatever they want to stay on the market...

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post #15 of 34
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Yeah, that's what I'm thinking... I'd really want a mechanical keyboard.
I'm already buying new ram and an SSD, and my budget is 500€, which leaves 300€ so it's either mechanical keyboard and 200€ something.
Or no mechanical keyboard and water cooling :/
I'm really surprised the prices haven't changed in like 10 years or something lol.
At the rate air cooling is advancing I would've assumed water cooling is going down in prices. (Considering you can get a 50€ air cooler which performs as well as h100 or something).
Why would you prefer the kit over custom? I don't believe I'd have any problems installing it, it's really just about the parts.
I like the reservoir of the kit, and the block ain't that bad but the EK is still nicer.
How are the included fans in the kit?

from what I read the fans seem to be nice and will not be too loud.

I would rather just get a mechanical keyboard, and just a CPU loop. You can easily add in a GPU to the loop later.

Air vs Water - none of those are ever gonna cool anything below ambient temps, and for an average user, air cooling is more than adequate, I have used the H80 in the past and honestly it performs exceptionally well.
post #16 of 34
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I agree with you jassi..
But the problem here is that even if I go for a 240 rad, which would be sufficient for cpu only I guess, I would still need a pump, block and reservoir.
I would only save 10€ by getting a 240 rad instead of 360, unless I'm missing something here?

Are there really no alternatives to the Laing pumps and any suggestions for reservoirs, as I would be willing to save there as well.
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post #17 of 34
Personally, I refuse to mix metals. So I buy Alphacool rads because they are the only ones with copper tubes afaik. I also only get cooper blocks. If I want them to look better, I can always paint the visible parts.
Butt killcoil? No way I'm deliberately putting in a completely dissimilar metal to stop algea if other options exist, and they do.

Only weak link is the fittings which seem to be all brass with nickel plating. I can live with that but I wish somebody would make copper fittings.

Why would anyone take the chance to mix metals, I just don't know!

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post #18 of 34
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Originally Posted by naikee View Post

I agree with you jassi..
But the problem here is that even if I go for a 240 rad, which would be sufficient for cpu only I guess, I would still need a pump, block and reservoir.
I would only save 10€ by getting a 240 rad instead of 360, unless I'm missing something here?
Are there really no alternatives to the Laing pumps and any suggestions for reservoirs, as I would be willing to save there as well.

360 makes sense if the price difference is that little. I have the mcp 35x, and i love that pump so far. Bits power has some cheap tube reservoirs. You will enjoy better components more than you will enjoy water cooling. Either wait some more and see if you can find a better deal. Look in the used market too, you will be surprised what you might find.
post #19 of 34
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Man I'm not sure which pump to get...
I have no actual retail shops here so I need to order it online, but everything is just scattered around and I want to save on postage.

Also, the pump naming is really confusing..
I'm not so sure the d5 is a good pump because it has low pressure?
So I was thinking of a DDC pump maybe but here's my problem.

The MPC 35x is the Laing DDC 3.25 with a custom top and PWM right?
But on the EKWB website they have a pump DDC 3.2TP with PWM and it says it is the Swiftech MCP 35x without the custom top. It also says "Laing original model name: DDC-3.25TPPWM4" but when comparing to a stock DDC3.25 it has less head pressure.
This is really weird because EK also has the DDC 3.25 which should be the MCP 35x, but it has no PWM so I guess it's not.
It just makes no sense at all.
And what's the deal with all the different D5 pumps, some have a 3pin fan cable, some don't.. Does this mean that if a D5 or a DDC for that matter only comes with a molex power connector I can't read the RPM with a fan controller?

Can someone clear this up..
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post #20 of 34
A mcp355 pump is better than the mcp655 pump because of head pressure. Getting a top for the mcp355 will give the pump better performance.
That being said with either pump you will be fine
then use a RX360 with a XSPC raystorm block and a gpu block for your gpu and you will be fine.
I have a guide in my sig that may further assist you.
Nickel plating prevents the progression of corrosion.
You can use XSPC 1650rpm fan and you will get great temps. I compared this fan and gentle typhoon fans 1850rpm and the performed practically the same.
xspc cost around 6.95 per fan vs gentle typhoons 16-20.00
MCP35x should be used in restrictive loops.
I have the mcp355 on a XSPC dual bay res and it is quiet compared to the mcp35x which is loud at full speed.
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