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Minimal FPS will seriously drop for a few seconds if VRAM is not enough. System memory isn't fast enough to compensate.

Although my GTX460 SLI has enough juice to run BF3 on max, due to 1GB VRAM I need to lower some settings that increase memory usage to get stable minimum fps. That's at 1680X1050.

As time goes games require more memory, and I am pretty sure that GTX670 has enough juice to utilize all 4GB of VRAM. One of the good things about HD7970 is that it comes with 3GB of VRAM and overclocked it is faster than GTX680, and it costs about the same as GTX670 4GB.

Also Samsung 840 isn't really recommended for a system drive due to TLC nand.
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Minimal FPS will seriously drop for a few seconds if VRAM is not enough. System memory isn't fast enough to compensate.
Although my GTX460 SLI has enough juice to run BF3 on max, due to 1GB VRAM I need to lower some settings that increase memory usage to get stable minimum fps. That's at 1680X1050.
As time goes games require more memory, and I am pretty sure that GTX670 has enough juice to utilize all 4GB of VRAM. One of the good things about HD7970 is that it comes with 3GB of VRAM and overclocked it is faster than GTX680, and it costs about the same as GTX670 4GB.
Also Samsung 840 isn't really recommended for a system drive due to TLC nand.
what da faq is TLC nand 0.o
Also i dont have any good after market cooled 7970 brands where i live. They are all referenced cards with slight over clocks. That just won't do for me frown.gif I preffer ASUS DC2's because of their cool & quiet fans.

Also i heard SLI multi sampling uses up more Vram.
Edited by james990 - 12/13/12 at 8:54pm
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There are 3 types of flash memory. Single cell (SLC, 1 bit per cell), multiple cell ( MLC, 2 bits per cell), and triple cell (TLC, 3 bits per cell). TLC has the least write capacity since every three bits go to the single cell, and since system drive gets a lot of writes, the TLC flash lifespam is lower. How much it actually is unknown atm since it's the first time it is used in SSDs. TLC is the type of nand used in a typical flash drive.

Samsung 830 uses MLC toggle nand.
Samsung 840 uses TLC toggle nand.
Samsung 840 Pro uses MLC toggle nand.
Plextor M5 Pro uses MLC toggle nand.
Edited by DeXel - 12/13/12 at 8:59pm
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There are 3 types of flash memory. Single cell (SLC, 1 bit per cell), multiple cell ( MLC, 2 bits per cell), and triple cell (TLC, 3 bits per cell). TLC has the least write capacity since every three bits go to the single cell, and since system drive gets a lot of writes, the TLC flash lifespam is lower. How much it actually is unknown atm since it's the first time it is used in SSDs. TLC is the type of nand used in a typical flash drive.
Samsung 830 uses MLC toggle nand.
Samsung 840 uses TLC toggle nand.
Samsung 840 Pro uses MLC toggle nand.
Plextor M5 Pro uses MLC toggle nand.
Ok, i understand a bit better, thanks.
So what brand out of these would you pick & what size would be suitable to me? ( ill give the highest sizes they have and their prices)
Intel SSD-330 SATA3 (240GB @ $185)
Intel SSD-520 SATA3 (120GB @ $125)
Samsung 830 Series SATA3(256GB @ $195)
Samsung 840 Series SATA3(250GB @ $199)
They have OCZ, but i heard its not that great.

On the SSD: OS, Adobe suite, 3DS MAX, other applications, large games?
I will move the default location of user data & default user files to my HD's to save space on the SSD.
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Samsung 830 for that price is a way to go thumb.gif. They are a bit hard to find in the USA since they are out of production, but they are better than non-pro 840s.

Plextor M3 and M5 series are also good options.
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Samsung 830 for that price is a way to go thumb.gif. They are a bit hard to find in the USA since they are out of production, but they are better than non-pro 840s.
Plextor M3 and M5 series are also good options.
Ok thanks :3
Do large games benefit from SSD's?
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You get decreased load times. Not all games benefit though from what I have heard, so try it yourself. I am planning to get 512GB TLC SSD when they get under $200 for random storage rolleyes.gif.
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You get decreased load times. Not all games benefit though from what I have heard, so try it yourself. I am planning to get 512GB TLC SSD when they get under $200 for random storage rolleyes.gif.
Ok then, thanks :3

Mmm, you think my PSU & build overall will be able to handle future generations of video cards?
Surely the amount of wattage's will decrease rather than increase when they use new chip sets, like Intel for example.
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That PSU is fine for GTX670 SLI, and so for every single GPU configuration, but I wonder if there is anything better for the same price. Have a link for a store's website?
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That PSU is fine for GTX670 SLI, and so for every single GPU configuration, but I wonder if there is anything better for the same price. Have a link for a store's website?
http://www.msy.com.au/Parts/PARTS.pdf

The cheapest place to buy parts where i live. Hands down. Everywhere else is atleast 10-10$ more expensive.
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