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Okay I'm coming to you guys with this question because me and my friend are worried about bricking the hard drive trying to do something with little information.

I just bought a Lenovo U310 from Newegg. This one in particular:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834246621

I made the purchase before I read the reviews, and I am not happy with what I learned. Nonetheless, this is just for when I go to university. The trackpad is pretty damn annoying but I guess I'll just get an external mouse. The reason why I don't want to make a return is because they're going to charge me a $121.50 restocking fee. I'd rather just put up with this.

Also, we already made the mistake of trying to install Windows 7 onto the SSD side of the hard drive, the operating system is currently installed onto the main HDD but I have heard that the OS running on the SSD makes the computer boot faster. Instead what happened is, it failed, and now when I boot up the computer it shows a black screen asking me if I want to start my computer using "Windows Setup" or "Windows 7" as if they were two different operating systems. This is a dead giveaway that I tampered with the laptop, and I don't want to send it over to them just for them to send it back to me, I don't have that kind of patience though I wish I did.

This is what I want to know: does anyone here know the proper way to re-install Windows 7 onto the SSD and clear out what is installed on the main HDD? I want the laptop to boot without going to a black screen, and I would also like to see all of this bloatware disappear. I am not sure if I am setting myself up for disaster. The HDD/SSD hybrid drive is proprietary, I cannot replace it, and it feels like I've already screwed up pretty badly and I don't wish to make it worse, but I do wish to see the OS on the SSD and the main drive cleaned out.


Many times when I have posted on overclock, people have told me that the way I speak is very misinformed. I don't deny it. I might have said a bunch of false things above as if they were true. If I have said anything so far that isn't true, let me know what it is. Just help me solve this dilemma in the best possible way that will satisfy me, if you can. Thank you!
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You should be able to simply quick format both drives with the install disk then install on to the SSD.

The SSD is a 32GB mSATA drive I believe and can most likely be replaced with a larger one if you like later on down the road. You can also replace the HDD with a normal 2.5" SSD too. They simply use a caching program to store most OS used files on the SSD from the HDD. You don't need that if you have the OS on the SSD.

Links to Windows 7 iso in my WIn 7 install guide if you need it.
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You should be able to simply quick format both drives with the install disk then install on to the SSD.
The SSD is a 32GB mSATA drive I believe and can most likely be replaced with a larger one if you like later on down the road. You can also replace the HDD with a normal 2.5" SSD too. They simply use a caching program to store most OS used files on the SSD from the HDD. You don't need that if you have the OS on the SSD.
Links to Windows 7 iso in my WIn 7 install guide if you need it.

That's what I did, I took the install disk, tried formatting the SSD, succeeded, then once the system was restarted, it gave us two options, "setup" and "windows 7" for some odd reason. The windows 7 installation did not continue and it gave us a BSOD when we loaded the "setup" option.

You think Gparted could be an option to format both the HDD and the SSD and then reinstall 7 on the SSD partition?

Also one of the reviewers for that laptop suggested that this Hybrid drive is an unusual size, meaning that you can't replace it with a regular 2.5 HDD or SSD. Is that true?
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You should be able to simply quick format both drives with the install disk then install on to the SSD.
The SSD is a 32GB mSATA drive I believe and can most likely be replaced with a larger one if you like later on down the road. You can also replace the HDD with a normal 2.5" SSD too. They simply use a caching program to store most OS used files on the SSD from the HDD. You don't need that if you have the OS on the SSD.
Links to Windows 7 iso in my WIn 7 install guide if you need it.

That's what I did, I took the install disk, tried formatting the SSD, succeeded, then once the system was restarted, it gave us two options, "setup" and "windows 7" for some odd reason. The windows 7 installation did not continue and it gave us a BSOD when we loaded the "setup" option.

You think Gparted could be an option to format both the HDD and the SSD and then reinstall 7 on the SSD partition?
Some of the caching partitions are formatted in HFS+ that may be why you had that issue as windows shouldn't ahve been able to see it and allow you to format it.

Just use diskpart's clean command (not clean all, just clean). It wipes all partitions on the drive you select. basically just follow my install guide and it tells you the steps. Should be no need for Gparted, tho you can use it if diskpart fails....which it shouldn't.
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Also one of the reviewers for that laptop suggested that this Hybrid drive is an unusual size, meaning that you can't replace it with a regular 2.5 HDD or SSD. Is that true?
I think it is just a mSATA SSD being used as a caching drive or it could be soldered into the mobo and a normal 2.5" HDD, possibly 7mm height. Let me look now lol.
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Just use diskpart's clean command (not clean all, just clean). It wipes all partitions on the drive you select. basically just follow my install guide and it tells you the steps. Should be no need for Gparted, tho you can use it if diskpart fails....which it shouldn't.

Can you point me to which part of the guide?
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Post #2: http://www.overclock.net/t/1156654/seans-windows-7-install-optimization-guide-for-ssds-hdds#post_15521910

Booting and partitioning of Windows 7 with the System Reserve Partition:
  1. Boot from your Windows 7 installation media. (If you have a UEFI option to boot, do not select it, select the non-UEFI option for your boot media.)
  2. After booting you see the Install Windows 7 screen, press Shift + F10 to open a command prompt.
  3. At the command prompt, type Diskpart, press Enter.
  4. Type List Disk, press Enter.
  5. Type Select Disk # (where # is the number your drive shows up as), press Enter.
  6. Type Clean, press Enter.
  7. Type Exit, press Enter.
  8. Close the Command Prompt window.
  9. Click the "Next" button.
  10. Click the "Install now" button.
  11. Accept the terms and click the "Next" button.
  12. Choose "Custom: Install Windows only (advanced)."
  13. Select the partition and click "Drive options (advanced)"
  14. Click "New" and then click the "Apply" button.
  15. Select your SSD.
  16. Click the "OK" button and then click the "Next" button.
  17. From then on follow the on screen instructions till you get to the desktop.


the only different thing to do is after you clean the first drive, select the other one and clean it as well. smile.gif
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Post #2: http://www.overclock.net/t/1156654/seans-windows-7-install-optimization-guide-for-ssds-hdds#post_15521910
Booting and partitioning of Windows 7 with the System Reserve Partition:
  1. Boot from your Windows 7 installation media. (If you have a UEFI option to boot, do not select it, select the non-UEFI option for your boot media.)
  2. After booting you see the Install Windows 7 screen, press Shift + F10 to open a command prompt.
  3. At the command prompt, type Diskpart, press Enter.
  4. Type List Disk, press Enter.
  5. Type Select Disk # (where # is the number your drive shows up as), press Enter.
  6. Type Clean, press Enter.
  7. Type Exit, press Enter.
  8. Close the Command Prompt window.
  9. Click the "Next" button.
  10. Click the "Install now" button.
  11. Accept the terms and click the "Next" button.
  12. Choose "Custom: Install Windows only (advanced)."
  13. Select the partition and click "Drive options (advanced)"
  14. Click "New" and then click the "Apply" button.
  15. Select your SSD.
  16. Click the "OK" button and then click the "Next" button.
  17. From then on follow the on screen instructions till you get to the desktop.
the only different thing to do is after you clean the first drive, select the other one and clean it as well. smile.gif

Should I clean them both at the same time? Or will that cause problems?
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that is fine. once the first drive is clean (disk 0) then select the second (disk 1) and clean that. Then install to the SSD.
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that is fine. once the first drive is clean (disk 0) then select the second (disk 1) and clean that. Then install to the SSD.

List Disk shows no disks. What now?
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that is fine. once the first drive is clean (disk 0) then select the second (disk 1) and clean that. Then install to the SSD.

List Disk shows no disks. What now?
You probably need to load the chipset driver.
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