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Well here's a basic breakdown:

$200 on bitspower compression fittings (9.99 a piece) and 20 of those unless someone can convince me to go XSPC.

$150 on the ex 420 and 280 radiators

$150 on dc2 ek waterblock and backplate

$100 on XSPC rivg waterblock

$150 for 2 ek ram blocks and dominator adapters

$75 for ek supremacy

$250 for pump and ek pump top for dual d5

$80 for 200ft. Durelene

$20 on mayhems dye

$50 for ek x3 250 mm res

$50 for XSPC fans (9.99 a piece) unless someone can provide a better alternative.

Lots of money on rotaries
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Well here's a basic breakdown:

$200 on bitspower compression fittings (9.99 a piece) and 20 of those unless someone can convince me to go XSPC.

$150 on the ex 420 and 280 radiators

$150 on dc2 ek waterblock and backplate

$100 on XSPC rivg waterblock

$150 for 2 ek ram blocks and dominator adapters

$75 for ek supremacy

$250 for pump and ek pump top for dual d5

$80 for 200ft. Durelene

$20 on mayhems dye

$50 for ek x3 250 mm res

$50 for XSPC fans (9.99 a piece) unless someone can provide a better alternative.

Lots of money on rotaries

I can't comment on all of these things, but here are some places you could save some money:

Compression fittings: If you went for the Monsoon Whites (mentioned in an earlier post), you could get 3 of the 'modder's 6 pack' from FrozenCPU for about $108 (saving $92)

You could go with a cheaper EK CPU block (maybe the EK Supreme LTX for about $45 (saving $30)

For the ram blocks, if you went with the Corsair Blocks, it would save you about $90 and you wouldn't need any adapters (you'd just screw 'em in)

For the fans, instead of getting the XSPC ones, i would get the Swiftech Helix 140's They would be very good performers and are already painted white. They are $11 instead of $10 for the XSPC, but i think they are better fans. edit: (aanndd they are already white smile.gif )

I can't comment on the GPU and Motherboard blocks, but the backplate does seem expense. (but it is quite sexy drool.gif ) Idk if 200ft is really necessary, i would say 100 would be plenty, 150 for overkill tongue.gif. but that is entirely your call.

I don't know a ton about pumps, but $250 seems like a lot to spend on a loop in a mid-tower and relatively few blocks/rads. again, i don't know much about pumps, so that is just my opinion.

Everything else seems fine though, imo. What do you think?
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Well here's a basic breakdown:

$200 on bitspower compression fittings (9.99 a piece) and 20 of those unless someone can convince me to go XSPC.

$150 on the ex 420 and 280 radiators

$150 on dc2 ek waterblock and backplate

$100 on XSPC rivg waterblock

$150 for 2 ek ram blocks and dominator adapters

$75 for ek supremacy

$250 for pump and ek pump top for dual d5

$80 for 200ft. Durelene

$20 on mayhems dye

$50 for ek x3 250 mm res

$50 for XSPC fans (9.99 a piece) unless someone can provide a better alternative.

Lots of money on rotaries

i would recommend you to reconsider the choice of BP fittings if it ends up costing you 200 bucks. you could got he Monsoon pack route as suggested above me or try the XSPC fittings which are 4$ a pop and if you need rotaries get either Phobya's nickel ones (quite cheap) which work good with the XSPC fittings or the EK angle rotaries (not the new CSQ style but the "old" ones) which the nickel version of them works almost perfectly with the XSPC ones.
(thus instead of ~20 BP fittings at 10$ a pop you'd get 20 XSPC ones at 4$ a pop and save 120$. and if you need angles the EK ones are ~5.5$ each and phybya should be a bit cheaper so could get as many as needed and save at least 50$)

On the CPU block, if you like EK's Supremacy block i'm no one to stop you from getting one (i guess its because of the frosted acrylic and the dye right?). but if you like / prefer / open to other options aesthetics wise you could get the EK LTX block if the aesthetic difference between the LTX and Supremacy doesn't bother you too much and thus save 25$. Or go with the XSPC Raystorm block and also save 25$ if you like its looks. (but if you like the EK supremacy the 25$ saving isn't worth it)

I would recommend you not to get a backplate with the GPU block for the 7970 DCUII because you already have the stock one which should work with the block no problems (might be a bit off on this so worth's a bit of researching on this) and it already looks great so you might loose from replacing it. (saved ~25$ here)

On RAM blocks it's a bit of a controversial and problematic topic. On the first side they are completely unneeded and redundant for today's DDR3 modules and just add restrictiveness to the loop and make it more complex. In the second side of it this is OCN and redundant and unnecessary are forbidden words and RAM blocks are purely for aesthetics and for e-Peen. if you like the look of RAM blocks and wish to use them i'm not stopping you from accomplishing your goal, but in my opinion RAM (at least yours) already looks great and you could save 150$ by considering this thought. if you go with RAM blocks, then i think you got your calculation wrong (maybe): since you have the RIVG board you would need the 2X dominator adapters (2x 25$) and 2 of the EK X2 blocks which cost each ~30$ and not the X4 which cost 50$ each. (and thus by the magic of mathematics you save 40$ at least)

TBH, i don't think you need dual pumps. a single D5 should handle this loop without too much sweat. but again this is OCN so if you really want dual pumps then go for it, your money. (but a single pump would save you 75$ of the second pump and 45$ by going on a single pump top)

200ft. of tubing??? i know this is OCN but 60 meters of tubing sounds like a miniature water park project rather than a water cooling project. 50ft. is already overkill so i'd recommend you that and thus saving 60$.

XSPC fans are great, many say that for the price they are quite the good buy. there aren't too many good 140 fans and the overall selection is quite small so you can't go (too) wrong with these.

also, you could save ~20$ by going with 420 and 280 rads from Phobya (60mm thick) or Alphacool (the UT60 model). and if you don't mind going a little thinner to 45 mm then the Alphacool XT45 rads (the 140 variants too) are a great choice with (very) minimal performance hit that saves you ~40$.
(and if you don't mind going to the old favorite 120mm standard, 360 and 240, you could save even some more and have a wider selection of fans but this is an entirely different discussion.)


saved at least ~300$ by going with XSPC comps, no back plate, correct RAM blocks, a single pump, and other rads. (everything depends on what you choose at the end. biggest chunk of the money pit here is the BP fittings and dual pumps)





hope it helped and got you reconsidering at list for a few seconds your loop. thumb.gif


Edit:
there is also a strong rumor that soon XSPC would release rotary angle fittings. actually XSPC just does not have an ETA date (or pics frown.gif )
Edited by RKTGX95 - 2/27/13 at 10:48am
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Just commenting on what i've used.
The 140mm XSPC fans are awesome. They are quite and push a lot of air. I have used them as well as the 140mm spectre pros from bitfenix and they are about equal in performance. For the compression fittings, 200 for BP fittings seems like a lot. I switched recently to all XSPC fittings and love the low profile look. Also they have a crazy hold on the durelene tubing, and the slot in the barb is good for installing and uninstalling them.
Hope that helps!
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Also the EX 140 series of rads are great. I wouldn't recommend going with a double thick and no fans, but if you can find another rad with sinilar performance at a lower price of the EX, go for it. No need for all that tubing either unless you're planning an additional 10 builds on the side tongue.gif
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Sorry dont know what happened here, I think my post got deleted or something.

 

So, here's what i said in a very simplified form:

 

NO RAM Blocks - i will no longer be using ram blocks. the original intent was because my ram hit 2133 at 1.6 V easily so i wanted to see if water could help it go higher.

NO Backplate (GPU) - using stock

PUMPS- Must have two for redudancy, otherwise, my dad freaks out. Also, i already have a D5.

200ft tubing - mainly for household purpses, and for our "home lab". Pretty much have to buy either way

FANS - Cant chose between Helix and XSPC, need your help guys!

RADS - EX is apparently the thinnest one (other than the HWLabs and Magicool one) and cheapest 140 based rad.

CPU Block - Supremacy. All metal hold down plate + CSQ (i know its a lame reason) = I like it and is worth it (IMO)

 

So, sorry for not being able to reply to each of you individually. Thanks for all your support!

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Sorry dont know what happened here, I think my post got deleted or something.

So, here's what i said in a very simplified form:

NO RAM Blocks - i will no longer be using ram blocks. the original intent was because my ram hit 2133 at 1.6 V easily so i wanted to see if water could help it go higher.
NO Backplate (GPU) - using stock
PUMPS- Must have two for redudancy, otherwise, my dad freaks out. Also, i already have a D5.
200ft tubing - mainly for household purpses, and for our "home lab". Pretty much have to buy either way
FANS - Cant chose between Helix and XSPC, need your help guys!
RADS - EX is apparently the thinnest one (other than the HWLabs and Magicool one) and cheapest 140 based rad.
CPU Block - Supremacy. All metal hold down plate + CSQ (i know its a lame reason) = I like it and is worth it (IMO)

So, sorry for not being able to reply to each of you individually. Thanks for all your support!

you should have stated that you have a D5 already, then it changes the picture. (i.e. hard to argue against a second one) also, a D5 is a good pump, no reason for it to suddenly fail on you (though heard a few stories, some of them were because the molex connector disconnected)
still beats me the idea of a 200ft tubing for a "home lab" but if you must the go for it.

as for fans, either would be a good fan but i guess it is only a matter of taste. do you want white fans or black fans in your loop. (also, i safe assumption is that the swiftech one would be a tad noisier since it is @ 1500RPM against the 1350RPM of the XSPC fan)
if you have any means of fan controlling the Bgears fan is great.


the EX rad is by many around here a great one though the Magicool one should be the cheapest. (also, all of the stated rads are quite dense, the HWlabs one is the densest one but with either fan choice the EX rad would work great)


and finally, the CPU block is excellent as long as you love the aesthetics of it. (which personally is great but only with at least one more CSQ product, which is the direction of EK to make us buy more)
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Fittings are a killer on the wallet.... I ended up spending ~$2000 in fittings on my first water cooled rig lol.... at first it was like $400, then I'd order more here and there and before I knew it BAM!! I tallied it all up and I was like holy crap, i could have built another system for that lol.

Nice work, and it is always nice to see younger folks getting in the mod zone thumb.gif Subbed for sure and +rep on the thermal paste write up man
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you should have stated that you have a D5 already, then it changes the picture. (i.e. hard to argue against a second one) also, a D5 is a good pump, no reason for it to suddenly fail on you (though heard a few stories, some of them were because the molex connector disconnected)
still beats me the idea of a 200ft tubing for a "home lab" but if you must the go for it.

as for fans, either would be a good fan but i guess it is only a matter of taste. do you want white fans or black fans in your loop. (also, i safe assumption is that the swiftech one would be a tad noisier since it is @ 1500RPM against the 1350RPM of the XSPC fan)
if you have any means of fan controlling the Bgears fan is great.


the EX rad is by many around here a great one though the Magicool one should be the cheapest. (also, all of the stated rads are quite dense, the HWlabs one is the densest one but with either fan choice the EX rad would work great)


and finally, the CPU block is excellent as long as you love the aesthetics of it. (which personally is great but only with at least one more CSQ product, which is the direction of EK to make us buy more)

 

Did I not mention that earlier? tongue.gif Sorry that I didn't. 

 

I will be running the fans at 7V, so, im sold on the bgears!

 

All of the things in my wc loop are EK CSQ flavored except the mobo, and rads (possibly fittings). I think that a good sanding on the frosted blocks will make it look nicer.

 

 


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Fittings are a killer on the wallet.... I ended up spending ~$2000 in fittings on my first water cooled rig lol.... at first it was like $400, then I'd order more here and there and before I knew it BAM!! I tallied it all up and I was like holy crap, i could have built another system for that lol.

Nice work, and it is always nice to see younger folks getting in the mod zone thumb.gif Subbed for sure and +rep on the thermal paste write up man

 

Thanks for the rep. Curious, what fittings did you use?

 

Thanks for all of your support!

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Did I not mention that earlier? tongue.gif
 Sorry that I didn't. 

I will be running the fans at 7V, so, im sold on the bgears!

All of the things in my wc loop are EK CSQ flavored except the mobo, and rads (possibly fittings). I think that a good sanding on the frosted blocks will make it look nicer.




Thanks for all of your support!

so with fans you're set and pump wink.gif

The "problem" with CSQ design (except the hate against it by some) is that it usually works great with at least 2 CSQ blocks or more. (i.e. what would be besides the CPU block as the EK GPU block for the ASUS DC2T 7970 isn't a CSQ one). don't take it the wrong way, the EK Supremacy (CSQ) block for the cpu can look great in a system but IMO it works perfectly with another CSQ accent (especially the frosted acrylic ones).
and do you really mean to sand the block? i have no experience with sanding but i think a good advice would be to reconsider such act because you might accidentally crack or just break somehow the block. (though you should consult more about this topic)

and lastly, i'd recommend you to use the EK angle rotaries with the XSPC compression fittings. (LINK and LINK. these would work great with the XSPC black chrome fittings)
Example of the XSPC fittings with the EK angles (Click to show)
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