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Welcome to three years ago.
You are talking about a very small niche here. Most computer owners don't know what a PSU is let alone who makes good ones. Even the type of person who does care a little about PSUs will be pretty uninformed and will usually go for the product that has been marketed the best. Companies like Corsair have done well because of a combination of generally good products, good customer support and aggressive marketing. It would be nice if some of the smaller companies were given the recognition they deserve but that's just how capitalism works. We all know Walmart is bad for small businesses but most people still shop there.
They shop there for the convenience and price. Same as the high tier brands. They think the more they spend the better.
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Welcome to three years ago.
You are talking about a very small niche here. Most computer owners don't know what a PSU is let alone who makes good ones. Even the type of person who does care a little about PSUs will be pretty uninformed and will usually go for the product that has been marketed the best. Companies like Corsair have done well because of a combination of generally good products, good customer support and aggressive marketing. It would be nice if some of the smaller companies were given the recognition they deserve but that's just how capitalism works. We all know Walmart is bad for small businesses but most people still shop there.
Some people here on OCN are not very well informed about PSU´s and if everyone and their mom keeps saying Corsair/Seasonic here on OCN we have that problem that the other brands could die and so will competition and that is not good
So i made this thread to help inform people who DONT know a lot about PSU´s that there are other brands
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Why are you worried about some division two manufacturers product and sales, to the non-enthusiast market illuminated everything will sell regardless of quality.

Just buy a brick, add some CF vinyl, and add a blue LED and wait for the cash to roll in.

If they are as ignorant as you suggest, why would they even look in here ?

dunx

P.S. The ONLY PSU I have had a problem with is a Coolermaster 700W Silent Pro Gold, out of luck I guess.....
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Why are you worried about some division two manufacturers product and sales, to the non-enthusiast market illuminated everything will sell regardless of quality.
Just buy a brick, add some CF vinyl, and add a blue LED and wait for the cash to roll in.
If they are as ignorant as you suggest, why would they even look in here ?
dunx
P.S. The ONLY PSU I have had a problem with is a Coolermaster 700W Silent Pro Gold, out of luck I guess.....
What was the problem?
Its true, my friend wanted to buy a Thermltake PSU due to the fact that you could change the color of the fan...
post #35 of 247
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Tried looking up who makes the insides of that unit cant seem to find out
And this is what could kill the PSU market by eveyone not doing just a little bit of research and end up buying Corsair/Seasonic no they are not bad brands but if everyone buys them the other brands will die and so will competition and that is not good
Competition is a good thing for us maybe not for the brands but for us it is

Everyone says buy them because its the most important part of a computer build and it needs to be the most reliable thing. I NEVER go cheap on a PSU and I always tell my buddies that if you go cheap on everything don't go cheap on the PSU.. Its better to pay too much to have too much wattage that won't be used than to pay too little have everything turn off and replace a lot of stuff because it was undervolted or fried.

This is the same reason I recommend everyone who is serious about owning a computer buy a UPS instead of protecting their thousand dollar PC with a "surge protector" which is one of the biggest lies in the industry.

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Welcome to three years ago.
You are talking about a very small niche here. Most computer owners don't know what a PSU is let alone who makes good ones. Even the type of person who does care a little about PSUs will be pretty uninformed and will usually go for the product that has been marketed the best. Companies like Corsair have done well because of a combination of generally good products, good customer support and aggressive marketing. It would be nice if some of the smaller companies were given the recognition they deserve but that's just how capitalism works. We all know Walmart is bad for small businesses but most people still shop there.

While I absolutely agree with this I would also point out that while I am not a PSU expert like Phaedrus and some others I do actually read up on them and across the board Corsair and Seasonic provide quality, reliability, good customer service. The most important thing is from top tier to bottom tier their units almost always provide 80% or better on their load wattage. This is something most PSU companies cannot come even close to.

Even the CX 430 which is the lowest tier unit I believe corsair offers provided between 79% and 84% This is the unit they have that DOESNT meet 80+ cert. Their voltage regulation is unheard of good for entry level products.



I'm sorry but its capitalism, they provide a great product for a reasonable price, they market it, and the market works itself out.



I also have gone with Antec in the past which is a reliable brand.
 
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I think a lot of people go with Corsair over other brands because the units look so much better (me included), I couldn't see my rig looking good with any other PSU.
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Everyone says buy them because its the most important part of a computer build and it needs to be the most reliable thing. I NEVER go cheap on a PSU and I always tell my buddies that if you go cheap on everything don't go cheap on the PSU.. Its better to pay too much to have too much wattage that won't be used than to pay too little have everything turn off and replace a lot of stuff because it was undervolted or..
Yes and i agree 100% with this
My friends think i am a bit too much hung up on the get a good PSU part and what do they do they buy s**t like LC Power which i tried myself and it was crap and even worse brands like Linkword and Hantol which i have seen at my PC shops and i would never touch those myself
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Even the CX 430 which is the lowest tier unit I believe corsair offers provided between 79% and 84% This is the unit they have that DOESNT meet 80+ cert. Their voltage regulation is unheard of good for entry level products.

They improved with the CX430v2 (which is now on OCN's list BTW) but yeah the original CX430 is a good example.
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As a Super Flower Golden King 550W owner I agree, I often try and recommend different makes but I guess Seasonic and Corsair are seen as units you can't go wrong with so by recommending them users are playing it safe. My partner has the Golden King 500W passive PSU which is awesome too.

This Super Flower unit is just awesome, with a single 680 doesn't ever come on, whatever the clock on either the CPU or GPU, even when I was playing with LN2.

The fan does come on with overclocked SLi but rarely and for short periods of time. I've managed to draw 700W from with wall while the unit stays passive for part of the time.

Currently with my CPU at 4.6 and GPU at 1110, I pull 270W while both are folding.
Edited by Willhemmens - 12/15/12 at 7:22am
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As a Super Flower Golden King 550W owner I agree, I often try and recommend different makes but I guess Seasonic and Corsair are seen as units you can't go wrong with so by recommending them users are playing it safe. My partner has the Golden King 500W passive PSU which is awesome too.
Life without risk is no life at all i say to that
And how you like your Super Flower would you recommend that PSU to others?
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