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post #21 of 82
The Vengeance RAM will likely interfere with those coolers, so I'd get the G.Skill instead (or just get 4 sticks of the Samsung 30nm stuff instead). 850W is way too much power supply, just get a quality 650W like the Rosewill Capstone 650M or the Seasonic X 650 instead. And those motherboards are way more than you need - any of the motherboards in the $150 range are going to be able to max out your overclock on air. If you want Asus look at the P8Z77-V or the P8Z77-V LK, or go with one of the other lower price options everyone else listed.

Rosewill Capstone 650M
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post #22 of 82
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The Vengeance RAM will likely interfere with those coolers, so I'd get the G.Skill instead (or just get 4 sticks of the Samsung 30nm stuff instead). 850W is way too much power supply, just get a quality 650W like the Rosewill Capstone 650M or the Seasonic X 650 instead. And those motherboards are way more than you need - any of the motherboards in the $150 range are going to be able to max out your overclock on air. If you want Asus look at the P8Z77-V or the P8Z77-V LK, or go with one of the other lower price options everyone else listed.
Rosewill Capstone 650M
Seasonic X 650 Great deal right now at $90 after promo code and rebate
Yup. Vengeance RAM has stupid heatspreaders, I wanted to get the low profile stuff but it was out of stock for too long and I wanted to order mad.gif

Agreed with the rest of your points, too. P8Z77-V would probably be my choice of board, along with the X-650/660.
post #23 of 82
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OK, I'll try to explain or justify why I chose the parts that I did thus far.

CPU and Motherboard
First off with the CPU and motherboard. I chose the i7-3770k Ivy Bridge chip because I'm not as much into gaming as I used to be in the past and think I'll benefit from the hyper-threading. If I game nowadays, its mostly Left 4 Dead, Counter-Strike, Team Fortress 2, and Dota. The reason I chose the ASUS Maximus V Formula, was because I currently have a ASUS motherboard and its done me well all this time. No real big issues and I believe ASUS is one of the most trusted motherboard manufacturers and at the top of the charts in reliability. Sure the board might be overkill for what I intend to do with it, but I believe there's always a chance for an SLI setup down the road. I listed the ASRock Z77 OC Formula, simply because of the relationship between them and ASUS and the great reviews its received on Newegg and on this website.

Heatsink
The heatsink options could very well be overkill. I do intend to overclock my chip, but how much will I overclock it remains unseen at the moment. I just listed two of the top air coolers that I know can perform at high standards. As for coolers in the mid-top tier range, I'm not so sure on what those may be.

Video Card
As for the video cards, well that's slightly up in the air at the moment. I want a great GPU manufacturer, one that I know can be quite reliable. Now to go past that further, is AMD or NVIDIA the right choice for this? I'm not so sure myself. From what it seems, the top choices would be: GTX 680 2GB, GTX 670 4GB, and Radeon 7970 3GB.

Sound Card
To take note on the sound card: This is something I currently have with my build in my signature at the moment. I do not know how it performs against on board audio these days. I got it at the time because I am becoming more an of audiophile these days. To give you some idea of how much of an audiophile, well I'm currently debating two headphone options: Grado RS1i and Sennheiser HD650. I'll pick up an amplifier as well, either tube or solid state. I probably won't pick up a DAC at this point in time, that's why I figure my sound card is still useful.

Power Supply
The power supply is overkill with the current build. I know that I would be fine with a 750 Watt PSU, but I did have future proofing in mind when I was coming up with the parts listed here. It was either the Seasonic X-850 or Corsair HX750. But the nice feature about the 850 is that all the modular cables are nicely sleeved as compared to the ones of Corsair. That was what tipped me off into going with the Seasonic. Dumb reason perhaps, but I liked that feature.

Memory
I will most likely not mess with overclocking the memory. It's too much of a hassle. Corsair and G.Skill are regarded as the best of the best, and after reading several threads on here about memory speeds and timings. I ended up with those two currently listed in the OP.

SSD
Now as for the SSD, I've heard the most reliable SSD at the moment is the Crucial M4. That there were a lot of problems with the OCZ Vertex drives in the past. I still listed the OCZ drive just as a comparison to see what people's thoughts on each were. I had read some about the Samsung drives that have been listed here recommending it, but did not know much about the reliable as compared with the two drives listed. Is this perhaps the new top dog at the moment?

Hard Drive
Now I have two hard drives at the moment. Two Samsung F3 1TB drives that have done me well. The reason I wanted to upgrade to a 2TB drive was because I was planning on giving my signature rig to family and building a new one of my own. I thought that having 1 drive that is 2TB would be more efficient than having 2 drives that are 1TB. Is this a good choice or not? I Guess I'll have to wait and read in the comments if someone remarks on this later. The drives I seem to trust the most these days are Samsung and Western Digital. I've heard very mixed things about Seagate drives in the past and how there products have just taken a turn and are not as high quality as they used to be. I heard that recently Seagate now manufacturers Samsung hard drives, so I was kind of straying away from Samsung drives now. Good choice or bad? Don't know yet.

Case

I really love the Silverstone FT02 case for air cooling. It has been solid to me for the past two years and is a case of high quality.

Monitor
The monitor issue is one of my biggest concerns at the moment. Do I want a monitor with a glossy finish or matte finish? It seems matte is preferred on here. But I have been having one hell of a time finding a monitor that has a matte finish on the screen. What I really want in the end though, is something that is at least 1920x1080, around 23 to 24 inches wide, and very easy on the eyes. Now the one I listed switches between 1920x1200 and 1920x1080, I thought that was a nice feature to be honest. But I'm sure there a lot of other monitors out there that I'm unaware of at this point in time. So feel free to recommend what you believe to meet the criteria above.
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post #24 of 82
You say you're not into gaming, yet you want a 680/7970? headscratch.gif
The Seasonic X-850 is a great power supply, Corsair uses Seasonic as their OEM for their internals in most of their PSUs. Even with future proofing in mind, power output is going to be decreased with each increment of new technology, so really buying a higher wattage PSU isn't going to future proof you that much. You're better off going with a higher efficiency, so like a Seasonic X 650 - if you want more wattage, then get the X-850.
In terms of SSD, the M4 isn't the most reliable, the recent firmware has been plagued with many issues, random crashes etc. I would suggest, as previously, a Samsung 830 or 840 Pro.
post #25 of 82
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Yeah it may sound odd that I listed the 680 as a choice based on what I described my computer uses for. I just have some cash to burn through, and figured if I'm going to re-build, why not go that extra mile. Plus, I never know if I'll suddenly return to how I used to be and game a lot more. If I was on more of a budget build, then I'd perhaps look at something more cost effective for the performance I'll get out of it.
Edited by Vitaminx - 12/16/12 at 3:09pm
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post #26 of 82
Fair enough; this is OCN, after all! thumb.gif
post #27 of 82
TL;DR, but $160 for a PSU?! You must be crazy.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152042 <--- saves you 100$

700W is way more than you will ever use and the efficiency increase from bronze to gold is less than 5% on average. For the efficiency to make up for the $100 would take more than a decade.
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post #28 of 82

If I were you for GPU's, I'd go for a 670 or 680. You probably won't be using all 4 GB of a 4 GB card, and I'm guessing 2 GB will be plenty.

 

As for manufacturer, EVGA or MSI you said? I'd go for EVGA any day, even if it costs more. Better cooling, better customer support, better quality than MSI cards.

 

I myself am looking at a 670 Signature2 FTW card, which you might like looking into as well. It comes factory overclocked (though i don't care about this) and has better cooling than the regular card (i care about this :D)

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post #29 of 82
I don't understand why people buy the maximus and other high end boards and just run air or water. Those boards are made for dice or ln2
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post #30 of 82
Okay:

CPU - you don't game much so you think you'll benefit from the i7? confused.gif

Fair enough if you really will use the HT, that just seemed like dodgy justification tongue.gif

Motherboard - you want an ASUS that supports SLI and will give you solid overclocking? Get the P8Z77-V. Both that and the Maximus V 'only' support x8/x8 SLI or CrossFireX, so you're not gaining anything there. Sure, the Maximus supports x8/x4/x4 but are you really going to use that?

GPU
- as Dave (assuming you're called Dave tongue.gif) said, if you really don't game much and play the games you've said, it's just a waste of money to get a 670 or something. You could get a 7850 which would play the games you've mentioned with ease, allow you to play many modern titles on high/very high settings should you want to, and cost about half as much as those. Alternatively, there's the GTX 660 which I believe is Nvidia's equivelant.

PSU - why not the X-750/760? Still the same basis as the X-850 but will save you some money and still give you the leeway to have two GTX 680s or 7970s in SLI should you go down that route in the future. If you end up deciding on a lower-end GPU, at the very least drop to a 650W.

SSD - as you can see from my signature I own a Crucial m4 and, whilst it has been reliable hardware-wise, there are firmware issues (the latest two don't play nice with UEFI boards and most older firmwares cause huge issues once the drive's been powered on for 5200 hours - so there are only two 'safe' firmware versions). That doesn't mean that I would not recommend it but I'd probably say to get the Samsung 830 or 840 Pro instead. Read this post and basically just see which of those drives you can find a good deal on - as Sean says you won't see a difference in performance between all of his recommendations.

HDD - I've got a Samsung Spinpoint F4EG (5400rpm) 2TB drive and it has been brilliant. Seagate bought out Samsung's hard drive department since then - and I know some of these drives were sold rebranded as Seagate drives, but I'm not sure on the exact model number there. I would try and get a drive with either three 667GB platters like mine, or two 1TB platters for the best performance. I wouldn't worry about getting a 5400rpm drive for storage. Not sure exactly which model to recommend but probably any of Seagate's or WD's 2TB or even 3TB drives. You pay a huge premium for 4TB now, probably not worth it.

Monitor - glossy vs matte is subjective. You'll have to find out which one you personally prefer. Glossy displays are going to be hard to see when you're in a well lit room (do you sit near a window?) whereas matte displays could potentially give you a less crisp image. As for the exact recommendation, I've heard nothing but good things about Dell's UltraSharp line of IPS displays - the U2312HM might be great for you.
Edited by Ellis - 12/16/12 at 3:24pm
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