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post #41 of 47
The major benefits of a smaller die size are the reduction in power usage and a cheaper to manufacture die, so it would make some sense for them only to reduce the die size on laptops.
post #42 of 47
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In fact, enterprise is almost the entirety of desktop sales now, i'm aware of this. I'm not sure why some are so offended at what I stated, its a truth: desktop as a mainstream consumer product will end in the next few years. Do I like it? no. Do I prefer desktops? yes.
If you look at recent combined sales data, it is alarming. Total desktop sales are plummeting, enterprise sales can't offset that. Consumers don't walk into best buy to buy desktops anymore, they buy tablets or macbook/ultrabooks. The market has shifted from 50/50 consumer/enterprise to 95% enterprise, and that enterprise share can't offset the fact that normal consumers don't buy desktops anymore. In fact, the largest websites (amazon) and stores (best buy) don't really sell desktops anymore.
So with that in mind I can see why intel is switching to BGA. Again, this is not how I would prefer things: I like desktop as well.
Well said, infact Intel is grouping desktop with Enterprise

You likely to see 201x socket expand downwards if they decide to make 115x broadwell BGA only.
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Makes sense as this is the only way broadwell being BGA ever would have made any sense. Just goes to show you people need to wait for all the information before going crazy about changes.(Assuming this rumor is true ofc.)
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Does that mean skylake is going to be on 1150?
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Does that mean skylake is going to be on 1150?
No, not any 1150 compatible with Haswell anyway. Skylake will be DDR4, which will break pin compatibility with Haswell.
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Yes, BGA it's called.
So are you suggesting gaming on a console is a nicer experience than gaming on a desktop with an AMD CPU inside it?

No, but it seems Intel/AMD are getting away from desktop gaming chips. So when Intel goes BGA me and most likely lots of other pc gamers will not buy into it. Unless AMD adds a good increase in performance to Steamroller like they did to the Vishera cores.
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post #47 of 47
I wonder if the whole BGA only thing is a way for intel to give themselves the option of mixing DDR3 and DDR4 parts within Broadwell. It probably depends how isolated the IMC is from the rest of the die, but because Intel will already have DDR4 controllers developed for Haswell-E, I can certainly see it as a possibility. If they have the option, it doesn't mean they'll use it. That would depend on DDR4 pricing, and whether the switch would give a significant boost to battery life.
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