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Okay, weird issue but I've narrowed down the issue to CPU and possibly board (has latest BIOS).

So of course, I've known about the 3770K tim issues so i decided to give it a shot, watched a lot of vids and guides so I would go in knowing what I'm doing... sort of. used a box cutter and didn't realize I was scratching the PCB pretty bad so stopped. Then attempted with a razor, made it even worse and scratched some traces here and there. Weird thing is that the YT vids I saw they slipped the razor in, boom simple. Mine was no where near as easy, plus I had glue on the side of the IHS. After giving up entirely I decided to test it out anyways.

After plopping er' in and booting I got post error "55" which for the board means "Memory not installed" so I was happy and sad at the same time knowing the CPU was probably shot. Board wouldn't show a post error unless the CPU probably worked. So I worked around with some DIMM configs, like 1 and 3, 2 and 4, just 4... it booted and showed "3770K" in the BIOS. I was happy and jumping around like crazy! So tried the other slots again, one by one and 1st, 2nd slot failed at error "55" while slots 3 and 4 posted successfully even with both 3 and 4 populated at the very same time.

I was able to boot into windows and benchmark it in CB11.5 and score was accurate @ stock w/ a 7.71. Drawback here of course was that I was running single channel and only a max of 8GB worked.


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My first assumption is that I scratched a lead for the IMC or something, then again I assume it wouldn't have posted. To triple check that the DIMM's weren't shot I put my 2500k back in, all DIMM's worked.

Now two possible issues I foresee. One, board doesn't like the 3770k or vice versa, I actually damaged the IMC trace or something. I sadly don't have another board to test this out, but for chip experts, what ideas or recommendations do you have? Should I buy another board and test it, or just sell it off to a bencher because I doubt he/she will use all four DIMM's as is?

Btw, I also found this thread which also states that it's a common thing for ASUS board to have DIMM slot issues with 3770K's?

Ideas are welcome!
Edited by nascasho - 12/16/12 at 4:39pm
    
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when I got my 3770k from MC couple days ago, I checked to see if it was possible to remove the IHS if the temps were not right and the chip overclocked good, from what I have seen in the videos and compared to my chip something wasn't right, didn't look like there was any place to insert the razor blade, the IHS was very close to the pcb. Anyways, I installed the chip to find out that the temps were acceptable at 4.8ghz but then I returned the chip to MC cause it wouldn't overclock to 5ghz no matter what voltage. I'm thinking intel did something else with the new ivy bridge chips to prevent people from delidding and they also improved the TIM between IHS and the die.
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when I got my 3770k from MC couple days ago, I checked to see if it was possible to remove the IHS if the temps were not right and the chip overclocked good, from what I have seen in the videos and compared to my chip something wasn't right, didn't look like there was any place to insert the razor blade, the IHS was very close to the pcb. Anyways, I installed the chip to find out that the temps were acceptable at 4.8ghz but then I returned the chip to MC cause it wouldn't overclock to 5ghz no matter what voltage. I'm thinking intel did something else with the new ivy bridge chips to prevent people from delidding and they also improved the TIM between IHS and the die.

im sorry but lol.. This is why places like this are selling used stuff as brand new to customers, because of people like you.. cherry picking...

To @ if the chip worked fine before delid then something went wrong on the process... Your 2500k worked fine. So is not the board...
Edited by zGunBLADEz - 12/16/12 at 2:41pm
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You damaged your chip sadly...
 
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Makes sense, would explain why it was so amazingly difficult to push the blade into.

I'm afraid I damaged a good piece of hardware now lol. I wanted to do a mild 4.5.

Also, didn't test the proc prior to delidding, when I got it, started stabbing it lol.
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If your 2500k works fine then you damaged your chip. If you read more before you do it general they advice to run 15 min prime to warm up the glue so you can insert the blade easier.
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If your 2500k works fine then you damaged your chip. If you read more before you do it general they advice to run 15 min prime to warm up the glue so you can insert the blade easier.

I run a 14gb IBT load before the process.... Razor went in like nothing process was around the 2 minute mark and the ihs was off...
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Also, didn't test the proc prior to delidding, when I got it, started stabbing it lol.

People make sure you try new hardware stock then overclock before doing things like this...

Well maybe you can try another brand of ram or check for bios updates with the 2500k you can do that...
But dont hope too much..
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The error 55 can also be the socket on the MB. I have a Maximus V Gene that is throwing that same error up CPU and memory work fine in another board. The socket looks fine, and I don't see any bent pins. What I am trying to say is that there seems to be an issue prevalent in newer asus boards with this error 55. I would try the CPU in another board if possible, because there is a chance there is nothing wrong with the CPU either, it could just be the board.
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Pins I checked, they're good, but I'm glad you confirmed that some boards are affected. Don't want to get a board then return it though.

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