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post #11 of 26
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What's the best case to get under $50?

Looks like NZXT has a source 210 which is basically a gamma? Its the same price, but seems to have a few coupons/rebate/deals/etc going on with it that make it a good $10 cheaper. It doesnt have anti-vibration pads for the psu, but you could just use 3m tape for anti-vibration or something if it mattered.
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post #12 of 26
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I'll probably go with nzxt gamma, $35 on walmart like last time.

Im trying to figure out a motherboard to buy for both the 3570k or Phenom x4 (not sure which I'll go with, the price difference between the 2 is huge, especially with motherboard factored in, but the i5 is an i5)

I can't figure out an intel board, a lot of budget motherboards seem to have issues like they can't be overvolted or can only be overvolted to 1.28 volts. It's hard to search these issues because on forum replies you just have *******s recommending boards they never used but have these restrictions that aren't clearly on the board descriptions.... there's 2 msi boards i saw that are like this already. and im ont sure how much i trust msi with their whole vrm quality issues, but from what i understand thats only a problem on amd and vrm isnt an issue on intel becuse they run so much cooler? but what if you push a 1.35v 5ghz overclock... -_-

As for am3 board id probably buy some used board, not hard to figure out that since theres no goofy restrictions on amd boards when it comes to overclocking, just gotta find a quality phase is all. 4+1 at least with features or 8+
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post #13 of 26
There is no such thing as what is the best case as it all depens on what you like and what you are going for
Try take a look at some of Bitfenix/Cooler Master/ Thermaltake before buying a NZXT
Or Case Labs and Fractal
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post #14 of 26
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I can't figure out an intel board, a lot of budget motherboards seem to have issues like they can't be overvolted or can only be overvolted to 1.28 volts. It's hard to search these issues because on forum replies you just have *******s recommending boards they never used but have these restrictions that aren't clearly on the board descriptions.... there's 2 msi boards i saw that are like this already. and im ont sure how much i trust msi with their whole vrm quality issues, but from what i understand thats only a problem on amd and vrm isnt an issue on intel becuse they run so much cooler? but what if you push a 1.35v 5ghz overclock... -_-

At 1.35V, IB is not getting 5ghz, more like 1.45 lol

1.35 is prob a 4.7, MAYBE 4.8 good chip, but then even with closed loop watercooling, looking at 70-80*C at full load, least on my side, and my chip while not golden is pretty good

ASRock Z77 Pro3 LGA 1155 looks pretty good. Ive always run ASUS/ASrock boards, and have never let me down
     
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post #15 of 26
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Your gonna have to be a bit more specific, I dont really know what your talking about. My knowledge is mostly about stuff from 2 years ago, I dont know what the newest cm/bitfenix/nzxt cases are.

Looks my best choices are nzxt gamma and nzxt source 210. From what I understand the rosewill challenger is just an nzxt gamma too, with slightly different front and fans.

I'd like to see an apples to apples comparison, stock case fans are always **** anyways so it's hard to get an accurate review because a site will say a case is bad because it only comes with 0-1 fans while another case is awesome because it has 2 ****ty fans with it.

I know cases really aren't much to it, but fan spaces, aesthetics, cable management, build quality/solidity, and nzxt seems to have that down. I've heard terrible things about thermaltake's v3 from people who owned it when i did a google search on it.

Anywyas, i think I'll just buy a motherboard through microcent'ers $40 off deal or whatever. not sure which one but ill figure it out.

http://www.microcenter.com/product/387627/Z77_Pro3_1155_ATX_Intel_Motherboard
probably asrock z77 pro3
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Jerryrigged VRM Heatsink (sawed off stock AM2 h... Hax'd W7 Ultimate 64bit Sanyo DP19640 19"1360x768 Ducky Cherry Browns 10keyless 
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post #16 of 26
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ASRock Z77 Pro3 1155 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.microcenter.com/product/387627/Z77_Pro3_1155_ATX_Intel_Motherboard

That would be the mobo I'd get if I go intel, something like $40 off if i were to get it with a i5-3570k from microcenter, which is where both an i5 3570k cpu and an overclockable/overvoltable mobo would be cheapest (so many intel boards that you can overclock, but can't overvolt or can't raise multiplier on, and no, im not talking about offset overvoltage, which im perfectly okay with)

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=M5A97-BO-R&cat=MBB
ASUS M5A97 AMD 970 CrossFireX Socket AM3+ ATX Motherboard w/Audio, GbLAN & RAID - Motherboard Only

That would be the AMD motherboard I'd go with if I go phenom x4 build.

Not sure if I'm gonna go intel or AMD yet, but that's the mobos I'd go for in either case.
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Intel X25-M 80GB SSD NH-D14 SE2011 Noctua 120/140/140 Fans 3 x Yate Loon Mediums (Petras) 2 x NZXT Havik 140mm Fans 
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Belial, the i5 is way faster than the phenom. if you can pull an intel build - go for it. the only amd chip that would compare to that intel build would be an fx 8300 series build. forget about the phenom if you have enough funds. i5 or the fx will prompt you to upgrade the gpu.

edit: the phenom, on the otherhand, is perfect for the 460.
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Hm i don't think I mentioned what GPU I was using at all but yes, I would be sticking with my gtx 460 768mb (specifically kept a 768mb instead of 1gb because of higher overclock to 922mhz, i actually had a 1gb and 768mb both earlier, but i play on 720, no need 1gb vram).

The issue is that the i5 is way more power than I need. I only play and stream starcraft 2. I will only be playing and streaming sc2 for the next, at least, 5 years, which is way beyond an upgrade cycle (oh no, i have to upgrade my build in 4 years, that's so terrible!). So even though the i5 is definitely king, do I really even need it.

On the flip side, is the ~$120 extra in cost really that bad? I mean I do have bills and stuff, but that's a day, maybe 2, of work. I am pretty poor though.

This build isn't going to happen for a few weeks, and specifically, this would only happen if I can sell my $300 current computer (with a 4850 instead of 460, and I have an h50 and nh-d14 laying around so cooler is covered too) for about $600 on craigslist (i have offers for $500, which, granted, would cover the cost of an i5 build actually, but im looking for $600....). My current build is perfect, but for a little profit and to upgrade my pc, sure i'll sell my current pc. Or, I could make a slightly better bulid of my current PC, and pocket a lot more money, like $200-300.

Phenom x4 is actually a great chip. When overclocked, it's better than an i3, and even with the cost of a hyper 212 (much less a $25 used H50 or $40 NH-D14 used), it's cheaper, and it'll beat the i3 in every benchmark, and it'll be almost 2x as strong in streaming, which is what I do, h264 codec. With my Phenom x4, I can stream 720p at 60fps very cleanly, but an i3 would struggle to do 720p at 30fps. H264 encoding is one of the few benchmarks where Phenom/AMD is better than Intel at the lower level price range, and whereas Intel is just 0-10% better in everything at the sub-$150 price rnage, AMD is about 150-200% better than Intel.

That's because you need a quadcore to stream. Now, once you get to the 150+ price range, ie i5's, yea, Intel crushes AMD/Phenom in everything, by leaps and bounds, including in streaming. But at the sub-$150 price range, AMD Phenom II is king (and APU/Athlon II as well). This is only because of quadcore, the ability to overclock, and H264 performance... really because of overclock. In terms of price, Athlon II/Phenom II is more comparable to Pentiums, not even the i3, and the Athlon/Phenom II is neck and neck with the Pentium (they are actually a little cheaper than Pentiums). Put in an overclock, and considering a 200% in h264 performance, and Athlon/Phenom x4 is awesome.

Don't worry, I'm well aware of the benefits and losses of each chip. Really, Phenom II is the smarter buy for me. I play an outdated game, I only stream. There's no reason for me to buy an i5. But... you know, its an i5.

But regardless of which build I go for, everything else in the system will be the same - PSU, Case, RAM, etc. So let's focus on that, eh? And, I'll pick out both an AM3/LGA1155 overclockable single-GPU motherboard so I'll know the right choice, regardless of which build I go for.

The i5 is more like 50% the performance, but 100% extra in price, of the Phenom ii x4, and I'm only playing an outdated game, and AMD/Phenom II beats Intel in one area - H264 encoding, which is what I primarily do (streaming). So there's no reason for me to get an i5, and for value, the Phenom ii is actually the better buy. Please, don't try to sell me on the i5, I'm well aware of what each CPU would do. The smarter choice would be for me to go Phenom ii. The more badass choice would be the i5. Dont forget i5 motherboard is 2x the price of a high quality AM3 motherboard, too.
Edited by Belial - 12/20/12 at 3:02pm
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Hey, I've had my computer for 2 years now and I just finally used up 40GB on it. I'm considering a new build, etc, and I'm thinking about getting an SSD since I use so little HDD (and that's without deleting all the crap off). Like an older gen, used, SSD. I don't want to buy something that's so terrible it's the same as a 7200rpm/10krpm hdd though, so here's what I'm looking at.

It's got to be under $50, and it's got to have at least 50GB (that way I have a good 5-10GB of extra space, so it's not choked up at 95%+ and running slower because it's full... although im not exactly how that works, or if it's even like that, i mean if 99% is perfectly okay then 45gb would be fine). I'm sure I won't have much choice in the matter given the price range, but I'm pretty much forced into looking at sub-100gb, used, ebay, older models, I'm sure.

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Kingston SSDNow V+100 64 GB,Internal,2.5" (SVP100S2/64G) (SSD) Solid State Drive

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Crucial 64 GB m4 Internal 2.5-Inch Solid State Hard Drive SATA CT064M4SSD2

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OCZ Agility 3 120 GB,Internal,2.5" (AGT3-25SAT3-120G) (SSD) Solid State Drive

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Crucial m4 65 GB 2.5" SATA Internal Solid State Drive SSD CT064M4SSD2CCA

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ntel SSDSA2CW120G3K5 320 Series 120GB SATA II 2.5" Internal Solid State Drive

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Kingston SNVP325-S2 SSDNow V Series 64GB SATA 2.5" Internal Solid State Dri

I'm not really sure which are better deals, and I'm sure prices fluctuate with bidding and all, but this was a quick search I did on SDDs on ebay, that were well under $50 currently (so will be up to $50 selling price, generally), and seemed to be notable brands and not laptop models. I really don't know anything about SSDs, except that no moving parts, expensive, and way faster than HDDs and tend to hold less space (given that I use only 40gb after 2 years, that shouldn't be an issue though, and may be a benefit since I could just go with like a 64gb ssd and that'd be all the memory I'd need).

If you can find any SSD for under $50, anywhere, that'd be perfectly okay too, but 40gb+ and under $50, I think, forces me to buy used ebay. I don't mind used, I prefer cheaper. If you find a listing or whatever, I can check it out to make sure it's a legit sale and all (contact seller, check out his history, etc), so don't worry about that

. I'm pretty well versed with ebay, I've been using it for a while and find it as secure, if not more secure, than most sites (newegg, etc), with features like pay after receiving the item, etc. That's just me, if you dont agree, you dont have to give a speel about how oh my god this guy on the internet 10 years ago said he had a bad experience on ebay when he bought from some shady guy with zero feedback, I've had only good experiences from ebay over many years and if you can find me a sub-$50 SSD anywhere else I'd be glad to check it out.

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Considering:
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59615&vpn=P1550SXXB9&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1285

XFX 550w Pro

$5 cheaper before rebate, $4 more after rebate. I know, perhaps no reason to get this much, but I think it's a much higher quality PSU than the Corsair cx430, and it allows me to SLI the 460's. I mean I know SLI is not really great, but I tend to buy used, older gen GPUs, so while my gtx 460 will last me a long time, in 5 years I can sli the 460's for like $30 extra!

Just a consideration. Maybe the $5 is better spent elsewhere.

edit: nvm the cx430 is now $25. it could probably do sli + overclock anyways.
Edited by Belial - 12/23/12 at 12:51am
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