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Among tests on 120Hz LightBoost monitors... the forum knowledge collective on several forums, thanks to Vega tests, my tests, hazmatm tests, (corroborated by at least 3 other independent forum user confirmations), the LightBoost winners has gradually converged into this average:

LightBoost Faint-Ghost Effect
In general, LightBoost crosstalk artifact (faint sharp double ghost) based on the TestUFO Eiffel Tower Test

LightBoost best (double ghost nearly gone) -- VG248QE, XL2411T, XL2420TE
LightBoost middle (double ghost faintly) -- VG278H, XL2720T
LightBoost worst (double ghost worse) -- XL2420T, XL2420TX, some older VG278HE's

LightBoost Color Quality
Also, for LightBoost color quality. Comparisions are best done after a quick calibration, adjust monitor contrast to a several notches below white clipping, then do nVidia Control Panel Desktop Brightness=52, Contrast=47, Gamma=0.70, Vibrance=50 (unmodified Vibrance) for more colorful LightBoost with full greyscale ramp.

LightBoost best colors -- VG278H, VG278HE, XL2720T, XL2420T, XL2420TX
LightBoost worse colors -- VG248QE, XL2411T, XL2420TE

LightBoost Overall Winners
Best Combined Quality (Colors+CRT Effect) -- VG278H, XL2720T, followed by VG278HE
Best CRT Effect -- VG248QE, XL2411T, XL2420TE*
Best Price (if colors not a concern) -- VG248QE in North America, XL2411T in Europe
Special mention goes to XL2420TE as being the first PWM-free 120Hz monitor that can dim to extremely dim levels in non-LightBoost mode, which is good for a low-eyestrain 120Hz monitor
Edited by mdrejhon - 8/6/13 at 4:19pm
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Originally Posted by socketus View Post

but ... but ... but... it mentions lightboost n all !

it may be from February of this year, but it mentions all the relevant aspects. Sheesh... do i gotta really quote from it ? So, you're in the Phillipines ... are both available ? which is the cheaper ? I'd go with that as the final deciding factor. Forget questions about greatest or best ... its an increMENTAL thang ...


In this comparison between the two monitors it is really very difficult to pick a clear winner. It is certainly worth looking through our reviews of both models for a more thorough analysis. The XL2411T has a slight edge in its colour quality with better gamma handling at 144Hz. It is possible to improve things on the desktop, where most users would find these issues most noticeable, by applying an ICC profile. We provide one for AMD and another for Nvidia users in our VG248QE review.

Both monitors are exceptionally responsive and can also be used (in a hacky way, currently) by Nvidia users with LightBoost in 2D for a ‘CRT-like’ blur-free experience. LightBoost aside, the ASUS does have a slight edge here in that it has more flexible pixel overdrive options. In its intermediate settings it maintains excellent pixel responsiveness and very low levels of ‘conventional trailing’, whilst suffering from less inverse ghosting than the BenQ (AMA High or Premium). Not all users are bothered by this, though.

With both having their pros and cons the real clincher could be the price and availability. In the United States only the ASUS is currently available – and is available at an excellent price of under $300. In many other regions the price is a bit higher and the BenQ model is actually available to consider. In the UK, for example, the ASUS typically costs around £300 whereas the BenQ typically costs £240 or under. The only real reason to plump for the VG248QE, for £60 more, would be if you know that the inverse ghosting would bother you. Or you prefer how it looks. Or, perhaps, that your graphics card lacks a DVI output but offers DisplayPort or Mini DisplayPort.

Now that's my bad because I didn't notice that your reply contained a link. I apologize.

No, both aren't even available in the Philippines. I usually source not-available-here components from the US. I'm contemplating though if I should sell my XL2420TX just to replace it with either of the two monitors in question. Is it even worth it?
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Now that's my bad because I didn't notice that your reply contained a link. I apologize.

No, both aren't even available in the Philippines. I usually source not-available-here components from the US. I'm contemplating though if I should sell my XL2420TX just to replace it with either of the two monitors in question. Is it even worth it?

It depends on you man. Depends on your impression of the product.
The XL2420T is the same as the XL2420TX so we basically have the same monitor, minus the IR emitter.

People have shown that this monitor has inverse ghosting due to overdrive but for me it's a non-issue. I pretty much use lightboost mode 24/7, unless I'm watching a movie on my monitor.

Do you like your monitor? Is there anything wrong with it? Does it provide an enjoyable experience?

Only reason I would replace it is if the inverse ghosting bothers you. You're not going to get amazing colors on any of the Lightboost monitors anyway so if you upgrade it would be such a small difference in my opinion.

The biggest upgrade, as I see it is if you got someone like Vega to remove the matte film on whichever monitor you choose.
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I don't know why that review brought up the adjustable trace free on the VG248QE when it was talking about light boost mode. You can't adjust trace free when light boost mode is on.

Where was TraceFree mentioned in the LightBoost section of the review? It was only mentioned when discussing the monitor during normal operation.
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Originally Posted by Scorpion667 View Post

It depends on you man. Depends on your impression of the product.
The XL2420T is the same as the XL2420TX so we basically have the same monitor, minus the IR emitter.

People have shown that this monitor has inverse ghosting due to overdrive but for me it's a non-issue. I pretty much use lightboost mode 24/7, unless I'm watching a movie on my monitor.

Do you like your monitor? Is there anything wrong with it? Does it provide an enjoyable experience?

Only reason I would replace it is if the inverse ghosting bothers you. You're not going to get amazing colors on any of the Lightboost monitors anyway so if you upgrade it would be such a small difference in my opinion.

The biggest upgrade, as I see it is if you got someone like Vega to remove the matte film on whichever monitor you choose.

Fair enough. I actually haven't tried applying the Lightboost mod for my monitor yet but am planning to do it soon. As far as I can say, I'm not too picky in terms of little quality details in my display monitors and my speakers. As long as they are practical high-end products then I'm good. With this said, I'm more of leaning on not selling my XL2420TX because it is still a good monitor, really.

Is the LB hack easy to do? Just follow the steps in the OP?
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Search this thread - should be a few pages back - for the latest ToastyX Strobelight beta - yah, it is in the OP, linked from LightBoost HOWTO text in the first few sentences of the OP.

http://www.blurbusters.com/zero-motion-blur/lightboost/

Scroll down a bit till you see this text:

NEW INSTRUCTIONS! - No registry tweaks! - No .reg or .inf files!

LightBoost is easily enabled with ToastyX Strobelight Beta.
This allows you to turn ON/OFF LightBoost easily via a hotkey.


ADD: ah hell ... my bad. Here's the actual page for the Strobelight

http://www.blurbusters.com/easy-lightboost-toastyx-strobelight/
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Search this thread - should be a few pages back - for the latest ToastyX Strobelight beta - yah, it is in the OP, linked from LightBoost HOWTO text in the first few sentences of the OP.

http://www.blurbusters.com/zero-motion-blur/lightboost/

Scroll down a bit till you see this text:

NEW INSTRUCTIONS! - No registry tweaks! - No .reg or .inf files!

LightBoost is easily enabled with ToastyX Strobelight Beta.
This allows you to turn ON/OFF LightBoost easily via a hotkey.


ADD: ah hell ... my bad. Here's the actual page for the Strobelight

http://www.blurbusters.com/easy-lightboost-toastyx-strobelight/

Thanks mate! Will read about this first.
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Take your time, I tried the cru utility and got lucky after a few hours over 2 or 3 days, got 1 of my vg248qe monitors into lightboost, and it was AMAZUNG !

Problem was getting all 3 into LB mode ... never got there, got sidetracked - its not my main pc anyway. Looks like BF3 can be a bear, judging from the comments on the Strobelight page, but I was able to set fps rate to 120 in msi afterburner, and at 120Hz refresh rate, its awesome. Just wish I had those younger reflexes to go along with the no motion blur.

oh yah - if you use the CRU utility, DO install the nvidia 3d driver. Very stupid mistake on my part at first.
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Take your time, I tried the cru utility and got lucky after a few hours over 2 or 3 days, got 1 of my vg248qe monitors into lightboost, and it was AMAZUNG !

Problem was getting all 3 into LB mode ... never got there, got sidetracked - its not my main pc anyway. Looks like BF3 can be a bear, judging from the comments on the Strobelight page, but I was able to set fps rate to 120 in msi afterburner, and at 120Hz refresh rate, its awesome. Just wish I had those younger reflexes to go along with the no motion blur.

oh yah - if you use the CRU utility, DO install the nvidia 3d driver. Very stupid mistake on my part at first.

Oh ok. I'm assuming that the CRU utility is also ToastyX Strobelight Beta utility?
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When I install the the new ToastyX Strobelight Beta utility, why do I need to add up to four resolutions? If I want to game in 3D, do I need to turn off the utility first?
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