Overclock.net › Forums › Components › Monitors and Displays › LightBoost, G-SYNC, Turbo240: 120Hz Strobe Backlight LCDs / No Motion Blur!
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

LightBoost, G-SYNC, Turbo240: 120Hz Strobe Backlight LCDs / No Motion Blur! - Page 167

post #1661 of 2929
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpartanVXL View Post

Does anything know about the AOC G2460PQU? Right now its on special at the local store and I'm considering getting it seeing how the other ones like the BenQ is about $200 NZD more and others like the Asus are out of stock (and still expensive as hell).

Personally I'd like to stop using my CRT, it's been a long run but the compatibility issues with custom resolutions etc are a bit annoying.
Unfortunately, the AOC doesn't have a motion blur reduction backlight (LightBoost, or G-SYNC's upcoming strobe mode). At best, you have 50% less motion blur than a 60Hz LCD, rather than going all the way to CRT motion clarity like you can with LightBoost or other strobe backlights.
post #1662 of 2929
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scorpion667 View Post

So should the Lightboost community stay away from 290x, at least for now? I have about 4 friends that wanna grab one or two each and I don't know what to tell them. I know Lightboost would work, but with this G-Sync stuff coming out I'm not sure where we stand. I read that Lightboost and G-Sync can't be enabled at the same time, but Vega said Nvidia is working on that?

Another point is the G-SYNC-enabled monitors have an updated Lightboost. And that new version of Lightboost might not be compatible with AMD GPUs. But maybe it will. frown.gif Too many questions!
The 2013 Build
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
--- SOLD --- --- SOLD ---  --- SOLD --- --- SOLD --- 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 850 EVO 500GB ASUS DRW-24B3ST (24X DVD burner) Noctua NH-U14S w/ NH-T1 TIM Windows 10 Pro (x64) 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
ASUS VG248QE w/ Lightboost @ 120Hz Ducky Shine III (MX Brown w/ Red backlights) Kingwin LZP-1000 (1000W) PSU Corsair Carbide Air 540 
Mouse Pad
Razer Goliathus (Precision Control model) - Sta... 
  hide details  
Reply
The 2013 Build
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
--- SOLD --- --- SOLD ---  --- SOLD --- --- SOLD --- 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 850 EVO 500GB ASUS DRW-24B3ST (24X DVD burner) Noctua NH-U14S w/ NH-T1 TIM Windows 10 Pro (x64) 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
ASUS VG248QE w/ Lightboost @ 120Hz Ducky Shine III (MX Brown w/ Red backlights) Kingwin LZP-1000 (1000W) PSU Corsair Carbide Air 540 
Mouse Pad
Razer Goliathus (Precision Control model) - Sta... 
  hide details  
Reply
post #1663 of 2929
Quote:
Originally Posted by CallsignVega View Post

Who knows, we could be a year or two away from a lightboost/gSync combo and/or GSync 4K monitors. On the fence about getting 290X's. But they are fast and easy to set up in LB..

Cool I'll let someone else be the guinea pig then.

Buddy is trying to get me to start playing BF4 (competitive team) and I was looking for a bit more power then my 1350Mhz 680 can provide, without having to sli/xfire.

I'm guessing assuming that within a few driver updates the 290x will start dominating the titan which might force price drops so I might grab a titan then. Unless you sell me one of yours Vega =P

Since Lightboost is such a game changer, I sort of want to stick to the green team in case LB3 or G-Sync strobing stops working on AMD cards.
Edited by Scorpion667 - 10/25/13 at 3:45pm
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
3930k 4.7 1.368v RIVE BIOS 2105 680L 1330/7011 16GB Samsung 2133Mhz  
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Crucial M4 240GB  H110 after 4x H220 RMA Win 8.1 64bit XL2420T Lightboost  
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
SS 6Gv2  EVGA 1300G2  Arc Midi R2 Zowie AM, many opticals 
Mouse PadAudioAudioAudio
SS QCK+ Xonar Essence STX AK100 MKII Shure SE846  
AudioAudioOther
Ultrasone Pro 900 Sennheiser HD700 Intel EXPI9301CT NIC 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
3930k 4.7 1.368v RIVE BIOS 2105 680L 1330/7011 16GB Samsung 2133Mhz  
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Crucial M4 240GB  H110 after 4x H220 RMA Win 8.1 64bit XL2420T Lightboost  
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
SS 6Gv2  EVGA 1300G2  Arc Midi R2 Zowie AM, many opticals 
Mouse PadAudioAudioAudio
SS QCK+ Xonar Essence STX AK100 MKII Shure SE846  
AudioAudioOther
Ultrasone Pro 900 Sennheiser HD700 Intel EXPI9301CT NIC 
  hide details  
Reply
post #1664 of 2929
Well nevermind about the AOC g2460, this review kind of made be take a step back from it. I'm going to bite the bullet and go for a Asus VG248QE for $500NZD. Looking at my options for shipping it across from the US or elsewhere it's still going to cost me an extra $100 to ship and then possibly get hit by customs on something that has no warranty frown.gif

Oh well, from the looks of things on this thread and elsewhere the Asus is the go-to for low input lag and high Hz. Goodbye my Philips Brilliance, I shall miss you biggrin.gif
The Hybrid
(18 items)
 
Secondary
(9 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 3770k @4.2GHz Gigabyte Z77x - UD3H Gigabyte 1070 G1 gaming Corsair Vengeance Pro 2x8GB 2400 CL11 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Crucial m500 480GB Intel SSD X25-M MLC 80GB 4x WD Green 2TB 64MB Antec Kuhler 620 AIO 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Philips Brilliance 202P4 22" CRT @2048x1536 85Hz Asus VG248QE 144Hz Lightboost Ducky Legend Blue 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair HX750 Raven RV-02 Logitech 502 Proteus SteelSeries fnatic QcK+ Limited Edition 
AudioAudio
Fiio E10k Audio Technica ATH-AD900x 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X4 955 BE Gigabyte 890GPA-UD3H Nvidia GeForce 9600GT SLI 8GB Kingston CL9 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Intel 320 SSD Scythe Yasya Windows 8 x64 LG Flatron 
Power
Antec HCG 520W 
  hide details  
Reply
The Hybrid
(18 items)
 
Secondary
(9 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 3770k @4.2GHz Gigabyte Z77x - UD3H Gigabyte 1070 G1 gaming Corsair Vengeance Pro 2x8GB 2400 CL11 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Crucial m500 480GB Intel SSD X25-M MLC 80GB 4x WD Green 2TB 64MB Antec Kuhler 620 AIO 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Philips Brilliance 202P4 22" CRT @2048x1536 85Hz Asus VG248QE 144Hz Lightboost Ducky Legend Blue 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair HX750 Raven RV-02 Logitech 502 Proteus SteelSeries fnatic QcK+ Limited Edition 
AudioAudio
Fiio E10k Audio Technica ATH-AD900x 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X4 955 BE Gigabyte 890GPA-UD3H Nvidia GeForce 9600GT SLI 8GB Kingston CL9 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Intel 320 SSD Scythe Yasya Windows 8 x64 LG Flatron 
Power
Antec HCG 520W 
  hide details  
Reply
post #1665 of 2929
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scorpion667 View Post

Cool I'll let someone else be the guinea pig then.

Buddy is trying to get me to start playing BF4 (competitive team) and I was looking for a bit more power then my 1350Mhz 680 can provide, without having to sli/xfire.

I'm guessing assuming that within a few driver updates the 290x will start dominating the titan which might force price drops so I might grab a titan then. Unless you sell me one of yours Vega =P

Since Lightboost is such a game changer, I sort of want to stick to the green team in case LB3 or G-Sync strobing stops working on AMD cards.

290x is expanded hardware on old architechture. Large boosts with drivers usually only comes with new architechture. Same thing happened with titan, drivers never made much of a boost as the architechture of kepler was already flushed out. I doubt you will see anything greater than single digit gains with new drivers with the 290x. Unless something with a particular game profile was broken to begin with.
Zybane
(20 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 6950X - 4.5 GHz Edition 10 Rampage V Extreme Titan Xp  G.Skill 32GB 3200 MHz CL14 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
1TB - Samsung SM961 Windows 10 Pro OLED 4K 55" LG C7P Razer BlackWidow TE Stealth Chroma 
PowerMouseAudioAudio
Corsair AX1500i 1500W Titanium Razer Mamba TE Denon AVR-X7200WA Elac BS 312 
AudioAudioAudioOther
Sennheiser HD-700 Headphones Velodyne MiniVee Subwoofer Buttkicker LFE Razer Orbweaver Stealth Chroma 
  hide details  
Reply
Zybane
(20 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 6950X - 4.5 GHz Edition 10 Rampage V Extreme Titan Xp  G.Skill 32GB 3200 MHz CL14 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
1TB - Samsung SM961 Windows 10 Pro OLED 4K 55" LG C7P Razer BlackWidow TE Stealth Chroma 
PowerMouseAudioAudio
Corsair AX1500i 1500W Titanium Razer Mamba TE Denon AVR-X7200WA Elac BS 312 
AudioAudioAudioOther
Sennheiser HD-700 Headphones Velodyne MiniVee Subwoofer Buttkicker LFE Razer Orbweaver Stealth Chroma 
  hide details  
Reply
post #1666 of 2929
So is there any reason to upgrade from the Toastyx Lightboost to Gsync? Will there be much difference at all? If I can save $150 on the kit, I would like to, lol.
    
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
i7-7820HK Kaby Lake @ 4.2Ghz GTX 1070 @ 2Ghz boost @ 9008Mhz Vram 16GB 2x8 DDR4 2133 Samsung 960 EVO 500GB NVMe 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
5TB Seagate 2.5" 5400RPM Grizzly Conductonaut on GPU and CPU Win 8.1 WSUS ;) 17.3" 1080p IPS oc'd 100hz GSYNC 
MouseAudioAudio
Naga 2014 + G303 Monolith M560 with XBR 500 earpads Schiit Fulla 1 AMP/DAC over Type C 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
i7-7820HK Kaby Lake @ 4.2Ghz GTX 1070 @ 2Ghz boost @ 9008Mhz Vram 16GB 2x8 DDR4 2133 Samsung 960 EVO 500GB NVMe 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
5TB Seagate 2.5" 5400RPM Grizzly Conductonaut on GPU and CPU Win 8.1 WSUS ;) 17.3" 1080p IPS oc'd 100hz GSYNC 
MouseAudioAudio
Naga 2014 + G303 Monolith M560 with XBR 500 earpads Schiit Fulla 1 AMP/DAC over Type C 
  hide details  
Reply
post #1667 of 2929
Quote:
Originally Posted by caenlen View Post

So is there any reason to upgrade from the Toastyx Lightboost to Gsync? Will there be much difference at all? If I can save $150 on the kit, I would like to, lol.

It is difficult for people to answer that seeing as it hasn't been released yet. LightBoost is optimised for 3D viewing, it's likely that the strobing mode on G-SYNC will maintain colours better. It should also allow smoother motion (better perhaps than LightBoost 10%) without the same extent of dimming. According to the current information the range of refresh rates available should also be better, so those without super powerful GPUs or who want to play with some extra eye-candy could try 85Hz. This should be a good refresh rate for many to choose as it's a refresh rate many found comfortable on CRTs (compared to 60Hz) and the 'flicker' manifests itself in a CRT-like way for strobing backlights.
post #1668 of 2929
Quote:
Originally Posted by PCM2 View Post

It is difficult for people to answer that seeing as it hasn't been released yet. LightBoost is optimised for 3D viewing, it's likely that the strobing mode on G-SYNC will maintain colours better. It should also allow smoother motion (better perhaps than LightBoost 10%) without the same extent of dimming. According to the current information the range of refresh rates available should also be better, so those without super powerful GPUs or who want to play with some extra eye-candy could try 85Hz. This should be a good refresh rate for many to choose as it's a refresh rate many found comfortable on CRTs (compared to 60Hz) and the 'flicker' manifests itself in a CRT-like way for strobing backlights.

I think G-Sync will have smoother motion, but Lightboost will still have far better motion clarity. Still an either/or unfortunately. I personally think G-Sync is better for slower machines, or machines running very demanding screens like Eyefinity/Surround setups and 4K monitors at 60 Hz. Lightboost will be better for the 120+ FPS folks.

The great thing about G-Sync is it will work with monitors with awesome picture quality. In order to get Lightboost and it's associated motion clarity, just about every other possible facet of a display takes a hard hit in sacrifice.
Zybane
(20 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 6950X - 4.5 GHz Edition 10 Rampage V Extreme Titan Xp  G.Skill 32GB 3200 MHz CL14 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
1TB - Samsung SM961 Windows 10 Pro OLED 4K 55" LG C7P Razer BlackWidow TE Stealth Chroma 
PowerMouseAudioAudio
Corsair AX1500i 1500W Titanium Razer Mamba TE Denon AVR-X7200WA Elac BS 312 
AudioAudioAudioOther
Sennheiser HD-700 Headphones Velodyne MiniVee Subwoofer Buttkicker LFE Razer Orbweaver Stealth Chroma 
  hide details  
Reply
Zybane
(20 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 6950X - 4.5 GHz Edition 10 Rampage V Extreme Titan Xp  G.Skill 32GB 3200 MHz CL14 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
1TB - Samsung SM961 Windows 10 Pro OLED 4K 55" LG C7P Razer BlackWidow TE Stealth Chroma 
PowerMouseAudioAudio
Corsair AX1500i 1500W Titanium Razer Mamba TE Denon AVR-X7200WA Elac BS 312 
AudioAudioAudioOther
Sennheiser HD-700 Headphones Velodyne MiniVee Subwoofer Buttkicker LFE Razer Orbweaver Stealth Chroma 
  hide details  
Reply
post #1669 of 2929
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CallsignVega View Post

The great thing about G-Sync is it will work with monitors with awesome picture quality. In order to get Lightboost and it's associated motion clarity, just about every other possible facet of a display takes a hard hit in sacrifice.
I know it is technologically possible to get strobing without the other hits. NVIDIA had to optimize LightBoost for 3D Vision use, sacrificing a lot of 2D image quality.

Keep tuned for reviews of G-SYNC's strobe mode, too. It probably won't eliminate all problems (e.g. brightness), but colors and other things should be greatly better.
post #1670 of 2929
I had stopped using lightboost for a few weeks due to a bug:

VERY RARELY (1~2 times a week) my screen will go black and reinitialize, taking me out of the game for 2~3 seconds. This happens even when ToastyX not running. I disabled Stereoscopic 3D from Nvidia control panel, so my Lightboost is permanent (i.e don't have to alt+T to kick it back in 2d when alt tabbing back into game).

So during the two weeks I:
-cleaned drivers
-reinstalled drivers,
-uninstalled monitor driver
-reinstalled monitor driver.

And the issue did not occur once in those two weeks, so it's safe to assume it's not a hardware issue.

Can I prevent this in any way?

Using:
-nvidia 314.07 driver (will try another driver tonight.. any recommendations for Lightboost "stability"?)
-nvidia 680 lightning on LN2 BIOS stock clocks
-XL2420T monitor at 120hz lightboost 10% brightness (lowest)
-usually have lightboost enabled 24/7
-usually only use ToastyX once during initial setup and is not set to autostart on windows.
Edited by Scorpion667 - 10/28/13 at 3:16pm
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
3930k 4.7 1.368v RIVE BIOS 2105 680L 1330/7011 16GB Samsung 2133Mhz  
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Crucial M4 240GB  H110 after 4x H220 RMA Win 8.1 64bit XL2420T Lightboost  
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
SS 6Gv2  EVGA 1300G2  Arc Midi R2 Zowie AM, many opticals 
Mouse PadAudioAudioAudio
SS QCK+ Xonar Essence STX AK100 MKII Shure SE846  
AudioAudioOther
Ultrasone Pro 900 Sennheiser HD700 Intel EXPI9301CT NIC 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
3930k 4.7 1.368v RIVE BIOS 2105 680L 1330/7011 16GB Samsung 2133Mhz  
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Crucial M4 240GB  H110 after 4x H220 RMA Win 8.1 64bit XL2420T Lightboost  
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
SS 6Gv2  EVGA 1300G2  Arc Midi R2 Zowie AM, many opticals 
Mouse PadAudioAudioAudio
SS QCK+ Xonar Essence STX AK100 MKII Shure SE846  
AudioAudioOther
Ultrasone Pro 900 Sennheiser HD700 Intel EXPI9301CT NIC 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Monitors and Displays
Overclock.net › Forums › Components › Monitors and Displays › LightBoost, G-SYNC, Turbo240: 120Hz Strobe Backlight LCDs / No Motion Blur!