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I have the Vg278he monitor and tried this. Anyone got good color settings with this motion blur trick? Only workaround is using sweetfx.
Also can this damage my monitor?
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I have the Vg278he monitor and tried this. Anyone got good color settings with this motion blur trick? Only workaround is using sweetfx.
Also can this damage my monitor?
Increase contrast to 92

No
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My VG278HE shows massive ghosting with lightboost. Followed all instructions, contrast 92 etc.

Scrolling a webpage leaves very noticeable ghost trails.

Anyone have any ideas?
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My VG278HE shows massive ghosting with lightboost. Followed all instructions, contrast 92 etc.

Scrolling a webpage leaves very noticeable ghost trails.

Anyone have any ideas?
Hmm. There is a tiny faint ghost image when moving something black on white background very fast. The ghost only trails behind the image 1mm at most and is very hard to see. Dont notice any ghosting in games. What you are describing sounds severe. Have you tried both 120hz and 144hz settings? If not mistaken the Lightboost can only coordinate up to 120hz. Do you see any of this in-game?
Edited by Swolern - 1/16/13 at 1:15am
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Originally Posted by hamzatm View Post

My VG278HE shows massive ghosting with lightboost. Followed all instructions, contrast 92 etc.
Scrolling a webpage leaves very noticeable ghost trails.
Anyone have any ideas?
Your LightBoost may not be turned on --
Can you go into your monitor adjustments and tell me if the "LightBoost" is adjustable in the monitor's mneus?
If not, then that means your LightBoost is turned off via the graphics card -- try double checking the instructions.
If it is adjustable, let's troubleshoot.
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FYI, immetjes on overclockers.co.uk forum, has posted a pretty impressive
PixPerAn image BENQ XL2411T. I concur I'm getting the same thing.
Truly zero ghosting, zero motion blur, zero trailing, zero coronas.
The ultrafaint artifact is not noticeable without a magnifying glass.


(Credit: immetjes on overclockers.co.uk thread)

Although pursuit camera images are better (e.g. MotionMaster Motion Blur Measurement Kit),
this is additional proof of LightBoost successfully bypassing pixel persistence (in addition to my existing 1000fps YouTube).

Original post from overclockers.co.uk thread:
Quote:
Originally Posted by immetjes;23561757 
Lightboost in 2D is certainly working. I have a XL2411T since 17-Dec-2012 and I did the readibility test part and the little car of PixPerAn. (I also posted this on pcmonitors, but it is so good I'll repeat it here).

I have made sure the monitor was in 3D mode without actually showing 3D. Lightboost is on. Refresh rate is on 120Hz. I have made a Macro photo of PixPerAn, shutter speed 1/160s, ISO800. This is the result: http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1236480/

Compared to lightboost off you can clearly see that there is hardly any blurring. Here is a PixPerAn photo using the same camera settings: http://i.imgur.com/clcVc.jpg .I tried to get a picture at 120Hz with no lightboost. But whatever I did the monitor refused to get out of the lightboost mode when using 120Hz. Therefor this picture is made at 144Hz.

I also did the readability test and was able to read rather easy upto level 24. At 25 it was going so fast I was only able to read the first 5 characters. I then tried the maximum of 30 and the text was still readable, however, because of the speed my head/eyes were unable to follow the text, it was still readable though.

Without lightboost I was able in the 144Hz mode to get with some effort upto level 10 of the readability test. After that the text became to blurred. I did the same test on my HP w2270h monitor and after level 8 or so the text became completely blurred.

in BF3 my scores definitly are improving. Especially in close combat circling around enemies. I'm able to keep on focus, where it used to blur all. GREAT! Also spotting foes from the corner of your eye when running, flying or driving improved a lot.
(I concur with this post, too!)
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Nice pic Mark.

Did you ever get your BenQ in to compare it to your vg278h? Less ghosting?

Also how high did you get on Pixperan readability test? 30 smile.gif
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Couple more questions.

1. For the best result you keep saying 120fps@120Hz. Are you suggesting a frame rate cap at 120fps or is anything above 120fps fine?

2. The vendor supported method seems to force vsync on even if I have it forced off in the drivers for the specific game. Any work around for this other than using the registry hack?
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Couple more questions.

1. For the best result you keep saying 120fps@120Hz. Are you suggesting a frame rate cap at 120fps or is anything above 120fps fine?
Depends on the game. But from what i have seen most games will look great above 120fps @ 120hz. But I believe vsync enabled will produce the best motion quality/clarity with each frame displayed timed exactly with the hz refresh rate of the monitor. That's if you dont mind vsync lag.
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2. The vendor supported method seems to force vsync on even if I have it forced off in the drivers for the specific game. Any work around for this other than using the registry hack?

Here is what i did to get the VG278H stuck in 2d Lightboost mode (3d) Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I did not use any registry tweak for my setup. What i did:
-> install clean Nvidia driver 306.xx or newer
-> checked enable stereoscopic 3d box
-> ran 3d Wizard
-> ran test stereoscopic 3d in N control panel
-> set refresh rate to 120hz & select Apply refresh rate to all games box, apply
-> launch test stereoscopic 3d tab
-> exit test app, (monitor should now be stuck in 3d mode)
-> uncheck Enable stereoscopic 3d box
-> apply


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Nice pic Mark.
Did you ever get your BenQ in to compare it to your vg278h? Less ghosting?
Also how high did you get on Pixperan readability test? 30 smile.gif
Got my XL2411T. I posted a sneak preview comparision in the HardForum thread, but I can crosspost over to here later.
Both are still zero motion blur. The faint "sharp ghost" effect ASUS was already very faint (like 3D crosstalk). The BENQ is much better in terms of remant trailing artifacts.

There's virtually zero crosstalk between refreshes, which makes the BENQ the best "3D glasses" monitor available (at the moment) if you like stereoscopic gaming.
I was not able to see the inter-refresh crosstalk on the ASUS most of the time (faint sharp duplicate edge artifact), but the new 1ms panels makes that even better.

I now have Windows 8 so I lost the ability to properly run PixPerAn properly, but I tested my motion tests (the one I announced on my blog) and am getting good measured MPRT (Motion Picture Response Time) in the 1.4ms to 1.9ms range with the BENQ XL2411T. The 1.9 value translates to a motion equivalence ratio almost reaching the 600 range, which is a score 10 times bigger than a typical 60Hz LCD. Note that MPRT is a different measurement method than pixel persistence, and MPRT measurements also works for plasma/CRT displays.

The PixPerAn score 30 is no problem for displays with MPRT's of less than 2ms. The limiting factor is the human eyes factor to be able to read fast moving text; so people are often getting 25-30 (but that's what some people were also getting when they ran PixPerAn on a 120Hz CRT, too -- they could not move their eyes fast enough to follow the text). The PixPerAn readability test runs at double speed at 120Hz than 60Hz, so the score of 30 is even more impressive at 120Hz than at 60Hz. This also additionally shows that motion blur is below human perceptible levels because any ultra-faint remaining motion blur is occurring when moving objects are moving too fast for human eyes to track.
Edited by mdrejhon - 1/17/13 at 10:50am
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