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post #2861 of 2929
i got asus one, my colors are messed up, says its in 3D mode i cant change anything on the monitor. can someonehelp.
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i got asus one, my colors are messed up, says its in 3D mode i cant change anything on the monitor. can someonehelp.

Lightboost does mess up colors and won't allow you to change monitor settings. That's normal, I just learned to live with it. Although, increasing digital vibrance may help a little.
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Originally Posted by mdrejhon View Post

Meanwhile, for you BENQ XL2420Z / XL2720Z / XL2411Z users,
BENQ has announced a new firmware.

Monitors containing the V2 firmware installed, are necessary for compatibility with Blur Busters Strobe Utility, which just got released this week.

strobe-utility.png
(Supports XL2411Z, XL2420Z and XL2720Z monitors with V2 firmwares)

This utility allows you to improve the ghosting in BENQ Blur Reduction, that has been previously reported, and turns the Z-Series from "worse than lightboost" into "better than lightboost".

TFTCentral also tests Blur Busters Strobe Utility:
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/benq_xl2720z.htm

There's a further tweak you can do to the Z monitors, one that makes moving text windows MUCH more pleasing (actually makes it 100% identical to lightboost) BUT causes inverse artifacts with graphics (particularly blacks), although black TEXT doesn't seem to be affected.
Set your blur reduction on and adjust with the utility, then go into the monitor menus and retoggle the AMA setting to high (even if its already on high). This will override the default AMA setting (based on a toned down version of high) for blur reduction and amplify it. This improves cursor and test ghosting by a GREAT deal, but will cause inverse ghosting on graphics (think of tracefree=100 on asus).

ANY change to the strobe or persistence will reset the AMA back to the default.

There's a higher AMA for the premium setting, although I would NOT recommend setting blur on and THEN Setting AMA to premium--the inverse artifacts become intolerable (text is fine like usual).
Although you can try setting it to premium first with blue off and THEN turn blur on (which, again, will tone down the AMA's default premium setting), YMMV on what you like.

There doesn't seem to be a way to make it IDENTICAL to lightboost for BOTH graphic and text at the same time, though (best of both worlds). It's possible that's an issue with 27" panels, as the 24" lightboost panels were clearer, also.
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i got asus one, my colors are messed up, says its in 3D mode i cant change anything on the monitor. can someonehelp.

Try reinstalling the graphics drivers. Usually that resets all the settings that lightboost introduces and should put you back to default. Then you can change monitor setting before you reinstall toasty. Once your in lightboost you cant change any monitor settings as far as color goes..
Edited by IronMaiden1973 - 3/28/14 at 10:15am
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After a driver update, I am forced to reset the display w/ the tool, reboot, install the rates, then reboot. Kinda annoying...
post #2866 of 2929
is there any g sync monitor with a release date yet? I can't find anything. I am surprised at how quiet nvidia and such are being about this
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is there any g sync monitor with a release date yet? I can't find anything. I am surprised at how quiet nvidia and such are being about this
Its been a slow and miserable 1st quarter 2014 for G-sync. Im trying to hold out for 4k G-sync, but who knows when the heck that will be.....

I did pre-order a Oculus Dev kit 2. So i will be checking out its low persistance screen. Too bad its only at 75mhz. Maybe i will at least be able to tweak it to 90hz. biggrin.gif

Mark, what was the lowest Hz/fps you have seen that a low persistance screen was benifitial. Its said to be pretty good with the Crystal cove/ DK2 OLED screen.
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Its been a slow and miserable 1st quarter 2014 for G-sync. Im trying to hold out for 4k G-sync, but who knows when the heck that will be.....

I did pre-order a Oculus Dev kit 2. So i will be checking out its low persistance screen. Too bad its only at 75mhz. Maybe i will at least be able to tweak it to 90hz. biggrin.gif

Mark, what was the lowest Hz/fps you have seen that a low persistance screen was benifitial. Its said to be pretty good with the Crystal cove/ DK2 OLED screen.

To clarify for Mark, you presumably mean one with a strobe light source? The problem with that for many users is that the flickering becomes potentially very noticeable and irritating at relatively low refresh rates. Blurbusters recently published a few quick thoughts on 60Hz strobing which could be used for games consoles for example. The level of motion clarity is certainly very good there compared to a normal LCD but the flickering is a side-effect that some users won't be able to stomach. Just remember back to 60Hz CRTs if you can.
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is the BenQ XL2420Z that much better than the Asus VG248QE?
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I just wanted to share some experiences recently...

I went to a LAN and this fellow next to me went on about the eyes can only see 60 fps thing. Another fella backed me up, but he assured me it didn't matter. I was actually a little pushy (SORRY HOTSLANG, YOU REALLY DID ACTUALLY HELP ME TO BE A MORE CASUAL PLAYER AND NOW I GET TO SELL THE MONITOR AND USE THE MONEY TO BUY MY MOTHER A NICE CAMERA (SHE LOST HERS) because...and here's the kicker...I was clearly defending my product that I bought because if what he said was true...not the 60 fps thing, but the "I don't need Lightboost, it doesn't matter, and I don't see anything special, etc."

I showed them the moving map and they could definitely see.

But guess what? This guy destroyed us. I am talking about 6 v 1 CS:GO or even Hawken. Frankly it didn't matter the game, he was basically a super hero for PC gamers. One time I was on his team and we wrecked the other guys, haha! We made a good team!

Guess what?

I have packed my XL2420TE in the box and have been gaming on my 7 year old Dell S-IPS 2007 for a little while now. I do notice the motion blur, but it doesn't bother me one bit. What did bother me was the washed out colors, tint, vertical...we all know...the TN panel.

I don't know what I was thinking or why I believe it was more important to have a faster monitor. I do not care about my K/D or my skills or anything like that anymore I make it a point to NEVER hit tab now.

TL:DR
I am now of the opinion that 120hz monitors and ESPECIALLY LIGHTBOOST are not worth my time. I thank all of you for the experience and it was fun for awhile. I got super competitive. But that was actually a problem. I would actually be dissapointed when I died! Now I try my best to laugh each time I do die. It can be a little hard to transition from being an ultra competitive not nice guy that would teabag, etc (describing me here) to someone that:

1. Tries hard to watch his mouth.
2. Laughs often.
3. Ignores any negativity.
4. Has fun no matter what is going on.

This has done wonder for my overall mood w/ regard to this game. Anyway...


EVERYTHING IS AWESOME!!!!

Also, this 1440P TN from Asus for $800 now seems to be about $400 too much IMO. It feels like the industry is trying to pull $ from you when it's completely unnecessary. I hope this doesn't come across as negative, but I feel like something is...off...w/ the industry in various aspects and we as a community need to really pull together and stop feeding the monster. We are making it more and more prohibitive for gamers to join us in the PC industry. frown.gif
Edited by Jodiuh - 4/5/14 at 11:29pm
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