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Vega ordered the XL2411T from overclockers.co.uk
Edited by MenacingTuba - 12/18/12 at 10:13am
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Vega ordered the XL2411T from overclock.co.uk

www.overclockers.co.uk

$400 shipped to the USA iirc.
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Nice feature the XL2411T has:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es6xPFjKa_M&playnext=1&list=PL8l174kvbhA4apPrGCx3sVCquSXmz-KhG&feature=results_main

That is like cheating for those of us that play competitive games with dark areas lol.
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ok, so what do I have to do to get this working on my BenQ XL2420T without a USB emitter?

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Nice feature the XL2411T has:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es6xPFjKa_M&playnext=1&list=PL8l174kvbhA4apPrGCx3sVCquSXmz-KhG&feature=results_main
That is like cheating for those of us that play competitive games with dark areas lol.

They've had this since the XL2410T, and the XL2420T took things a step further but offering a mini USB external controller that allowed you to hotswap between different monitor profiles, which was a huge plus IMO as while the "night vision" modes can offer a huge advantage in competitive games, the over all image quality is pretty terribad and particularly unbearable for any desktop work or other media viewing.
Edited by bojinglebells - 12/18/12 at 11:54am
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You need LightBoost2. Not the older LightBoost or older 3D Vision monitor.
P.S. Even LightBoost2 could use some technological improvement because LightBoost2 actually dims the picture in 2D mode. It was originally designed to boost brightness through 3D shutter glasses (via strobing the backlight only while shutters are open, avoiding wasting backlight when both shutters are closed waiting for LCD to refresh). It was not designed to brighten the 2D picture. Short strobes often lead to a dimmer picture. You really need very short strobes, with very bright & expensive LED's to compenate. Strobed backlights (LightBoost2) are mainly found in expensive monitors.
Fortunately, the picture is perfect brightness for my eyes when I adjust Brightness to 92, and I mainly game at night, so it's not a problem. (It might be a problem for sunny computer rooms during the day, though).

Oh I know, I was just wondering if there was "anything" I could do with my monitor, tweak wise. But to be brutally honest, 120hz and 2ms feels pretty damn smooth. Just a shame that there's not a single game I want to play that could make use of it. frown.gif
    
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Oh I know, I was just wondering if there was "anything" I could do with my monitor, tweak wise. But to be brutally honest, 120hz and 2ms feels pretty damn smooth. Just a shame that there's not a single game I want to play that could make use of it. frown.gif

You don't understand. Your brain get's used to an image and thinking it is smooth. If I put a FW900 in front of you and scrolled two images between your LCD and the the CRT, your brain would instantly snap back into reality and realize the motion on the FW900 is far far superior. That is the same effect we are trying to get with the Lightboost LCD's.
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Hell yeahs! Great feature news. Not that I had any issue before, but any thing that makes my $600aud monitors perform better is always a bonus.
Thx OP.
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You don't understand. Your brain get's used to an image and thinking it is smooth. If I put a FW900 in front of you and scrolled two images between your LCD and the the CRT, your brain would instantly snap back into reality and realize the motion on the FW900 is far far superior. That is the same effect we are trying to get with the Lightboost LCD's.

I understand perfectly well, I was just wondering what I could do to my current monitor. Where did I state anything about my understanding of this :S? You replying to the right person here?
    
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Mind you, there are some tradeoffs -- LightBoost2 does degrade color quality slightly, picture adjustments are locked on many models of monitors (due to response time acceleration being force-enabled and optimized for 3D). So some people may only enable LightBoost during FPS gaming where you get a reaction time advantage from the zero motion blur effect. Others may keep it enabled at all times, including the Windows desktop. I've left it enabled at the desktop, for everything.

We need a button to make it easy to turn on/off LightBoost, whenever we feel like it.
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I'm not sure you can make such a comparison.
CRT has a very long phosphor decay. Flicker is simply a result of the last frame dimming to such a degree that the next bright frame shows a visible brightness delta. CRT TVs have a longer phosphor decay than monitors, allowing 50hz/60hz operation without eyestrain.
LED is instant on/off with no decay, which is why PWM is such an issue. Strobing may have a long "on" period, but the lack of decay is still there.
I plan to pick up the Asus 24" when it comes on sale and will see how it affects me. I'm very sensitive to LED PWM.
If you are sensitive to PWM, you will be sensitive to LightBoost. It's wholly possible certain people can tell apart the scanning versus strobing. However, I can't tell the difference between 120Hz flicker of a CRT and 120Hz flicker of a LightBoost, though I can see the 120Hz flicker unless I wave my hand in front of it (stroboscopic effect), or if I step back far away and then rolling my eyes (another stroboscopic effect - phantom array)

I agree that backlights should have the ability to run at high-speed PWM (1000Hz+ at least) whenever LightBoost is disabled. The LED backlights in LightBoost, are in theory, fully programmable. Perhaps a project for a good hacker.
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ok, so what do I have to do to get this working on my BenQ XL2420T without a USB emitter?
Did you try the registry tweak?
Edited by mdrejhon - 2/24/13 at 8:51pm
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