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Yep, a $50 nVidia card activates LightBoost for a $600 AMD card thumb.gif

I'd do that if all else fails but I'd rather get it to work on AMD rigs. Although this will eventually get noticed by manufacturers and will be enabled by default in future monitors.
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I'd do that if all else fails but I'd rather get it to work on AMD rigs. Although this will eventually get noticed by manufacturers and will be enabled by default in future monitors.
For several reasons (brightness is lower, image quality, 120 Hz flicker can feel uncomfortable to some people, etc) doubtful it will be enabled by default but it should be made as easy to enable as a special button on the monitor or at least a menu option similar to Samsung's.

Like a special game-optimized "Motionflow" mode that can be turned on/off. (A Sony feature that can be turned on/off on Sony HDTV's, but LightBoost is superior to that because it is pure strobe based like CRT, has even less motion blur, does not use interpolation, and has less input lag)
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Could you install the softmccs application open it and screenshot it for me. My BenQ xl2411t does not show anythingin the "Manufacturer Specific" section. I assume this is because I have an AMD card.

I'll try it after I finish OC'ing all of the components of my system smile.gif
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I just noticed using CRU removed all the refresh rates apart from 120Hz, why didnt it remove all supported resolutions apart from 1080p as well?
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The amount of resolutions to remove doesn't have to be that complete -- just enough to make games be forced to use LightBoost compatible modes (e.g. BF3 sometimes tries to switch to a non-LightBoost). Are you wanting to add them back?
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What are the chances of a Manufacturer incorporating this concept into the monitor without the need for all this. etc, they design it with a selectable option from the monitors menu options and it does this effect without the need for Nvidia drivers?

Judging by the response in this thread it would make one hell of a marketing bullet point and get alot of people interested in it. Even if Nvidia made the option available in their control panel without the need for excessive tinkering i think that would be enough for people to choose a Geforce over a Radeon.
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What are the chances of a Manufacturer incorporating this concept into the monitor without the need for all this. etc, they design it with a selectable option from the monitors menu options and it does this effect without the need for Nvidia drivers?

Judging by the response in this thread it would make one hell of a marketing bullet point and get alot of people interested in it. Even if Nvidia made the option available in their control panel without the need for excessive tinkering i think that would be enough for people to choose a Geforce over a Radeon.

Slim to none. It's all about the money.

Most 120hz displays are sold for their 3D capability. As we know, 99.9% of PC users are ignorant/oblivious to the advantages 120hz gives over 60hz. The majority of PC gamers are happy with 30-50fps for pete sake.

A scanning backlight option may one day exist in a passive 3D PC monitor. Being passive 3D it will of course only accept a 60hz signal.
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What are the chances of a Manufacturer incorporating this concept into the monitor without the need for all this. etc, they design it with a selectable option from the monitors menu options and it does this effect without the need for Nvidia drivers?

Judging by the response in this thread it would make one hell of a marketing bullet point and get alot of people interested in it. Even if Nvidia made the option available in their control panel without the need for excessive tinkering i think that would be enough for people to choose a Geforce over a Radeon.

Light Boost is an Nvidia propriety owned tech. NVidia gets a percentage of monitor sales from companies that use Light Boost. If the company dosen't agree then they aren't supported currently. All this can be thanked due to 3D Vision fun and a creative team.

It does feel like a selling point because even though I may be toying with the 1440 monitor it makes it tuff for me to switch when TN panels get this good with no motion blur without 3D. smile.gif

1440 is beautiful resolution and many perks except for the response time gaming where the 120 Hz monitor with Light Boost is available now helps me pawn my enemies quicker. wink.gif

I don't know the specifics if the monitor companies can come up with their own version of Light Boost which doesn't break the patent rights. Got to give Kudos in this area where Nvidia excels in 3D Vision.
     
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I don't know the specifics if the monitor companies can come up with their own version of Light Boost which doesn't break the patent rights. Got to give Kudos in this area where Nvidia excels in 3D Vision.

They certainly can. Samsung's SA700/750/950 series use strobing backlights for their Frame Sequential 3D mode which gives an effect similar to LightBoost in 2D. Strobing backlights are commonly used in TV systems, too, to reduce apparent motion blur. I really do hope to see Samsung launch some similar models to replace these now discontinued wonders.
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They certainly can. Samsung's SA700/750/950 series use strobing backlights for their Frame Sequential 3D mode which gives an effect similar to LightBoost in 2D. Strobing backlights are commonly used in TV systems, too, to reduce apparent motion blur. I really do hope to see Samsung launch some similar models to replace these now discontinued wonders.

Thank you for clarifying that. thumb.gif

Curious why this way of strobing back lights didn't have the same effect in 2D gaming with motion blur?

Off topic - Do you know why they were discontinued? I looked at those monitors before my current one. If it wasn't for 3D Vision I was leaning SA950 route if I could have got passed the glossy panel. They are amazing monitors.....did I miss their upgrades? And if so, Did they come with the same strobing back light?
     
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