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Check this out:
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TFTCentral has tested LightBoost with their equipment and found
LightBoost outperforms all past scanning backlights they have ever tested,
including the old BENQ AMA-Z and Samsung MPA from 2006.

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Check out TFTCentral's Motion Blur Reduction Backlights article!
BTW, Hammerforged, they used your LightBoost HOWTO video!
Edited by mdrejhon - 3/21/13 at 10:49am
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I think this is advertising.
 
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Check this out:
BTW, Hammerforged, they used your LightBoost HOWTO video!

WOOOO! I really like how quickly this is mod is growing. Ive been telling everyone I game with about it.

Maybe I need to make one with CRU now biggrin.gif
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I think this is advertising.
Oh; TFTCentral actually approached me, since they were interested in testing it. I don't earn money from this article.

Their review is impartial and unbiased -- their review was already written when they asked me to proofread it (since it covered scanning backlight science, and I host a Scanning Backlight FAQ, and I used to work in the home theater industry (designing equipment!); while I'm also an associate member of SID.org (Society for Information Display), so being a known authority on the topic, they approached me to verified the correctness of their article and gave them back input and corrections, mainly to scanning backlight science). I gave them access to the motion tests, and they apparently chose to also include that too (with my permission).

It is noteworthy comment that they actually used the worst LightBoost monitor to take PixPerAn photos on; the VG278HE is worse than the VG278H -- hazmatm tested the VG278H and VG278HE side by side; while my XL2411T is in turn better than VG278H in terms of crosstalk artifacts. I mentioned to them that ASUS VG248QE and XL2411T produces much better PixPerAn images. They also understandably pan on some of the LightBoost disadvantages; but came away more impressed than expected -- and rightfully so; they've tested many scanning backlights and came away underwhelmed. As this forum thread attests, many people agree that amongst the scanning backlight and other stroboscopic technologies, LightBoost has been one of the best invented.

nVidia led the way there, but never advertised its 2D motion blur elimination benefit which is actually more in demand than stereoscopic 3D at this stage. The demand just hasn't been properly tapped. Only now, that's slowly changing (especially VG248QE). Googling "LightBoost" now returns more results relating to its zero motion blur benefits than for its original 3D Vision purpose. Even customer reviews on Amazon's VG248QE page are starting to mention LightBoost blur benefit more often than LightBoost 3D benefit. NewEgg and ASUS just talked about LightBoost zero blur in their YouTube. It became too irresistible for sites such as pcmonitors and TFTCentral NOT to cover this technology. More mainstream sites will follow suit later this year.

Also they essentially said a rough equivalent to It's got worse color, it's not properly calibrated for 2D, it is darker, it doesn't completely eliminate overdrive artifacts, it is only available on TN panels, but that the blur elimination was very large, TFTCentral beautifully covers those disadvantages in detail, and despite disadvantages, the lack of motion blur is apparently a very noteworthy for many people sensitive to motion blur -- and some sick of it (and finally found the Holy Grail in LightBoost) -- otherwise this thread wouldn't have reached over 70 pages long.

People post links all the time throughout these forums, as long as they don't earn money of it. But yes, guilty of posting a hyperlink -- perhaps I should have waited until somebody else more impartial posted the TFTCentral link -- that would have been more unbiased posting of a link. It's on-topic in this thread, anyway.
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Edited by mdrejhon - 3/21/13 at 3:12pm
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I think this is advertising.

(I don't know what exactly you mean since your statement is ambiguous in so many possible ways, so I'll assume you mean Mark's posts in general)

Call it what you will, it is a HUGE service to this community and every other community. Lightboost is real and what it provides is real, if you cared about other people you would do all you can to share it and I couldn't care less about ulterior motives, since the benefit is first and foremost for the community.

At first glance Mark's posts around the web look exactly like advertising, but you soon realise that what he is doing is valuable and I for one have come to fully appreciate it.

(from a member of the community who tried lightboost and discovered the goddarn Atlantis of competitive gaming monitors)
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How much of a difference between the vg278he vs vg248qe in 2d lightboost. 278he which I have is very good in lightboost. Wondering because I might sell my HE version to get the smaller 24 version.
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How much of a difference between the vg278he vs vg248qe in 2d lightboost. 278he which I have is very good in lightboost. Wondering because I might sell my HE version to get the smaller 24 version.
LightBoost quality -- I have a VG278H (similar to HE) and XL2411T (similar to VG248QE). LightBoost quality is similiar on most LightBoost monitors; there's no difference in motion blur between the two except for differences in LCD artifacts. The BENQ's better but had a purple tint that needed adjustment. Some LightBoost monitors have a purple tint (the VG248QE has a worse LightBoost colors before calibration). The crosstalk varies quite a lot between them -- faint LightBoost artifacts mainly seen in PixPerAn and motion tests but usually not in games -- and the XL2411T / VG248QE is very noticeably better than the VG278HE in terms of the LightBoost artifacts (showing up as faint sharp trailing ghost double-image which you may have seen). Some users/reviews/sources (including myself) are claiming the ASUS has better color than the BENQ, while others are claiming less LightBoost artifacts on the BENQ, etc. But I've also heard of people doing stellar jobs of calibrating their BENQ with a colorimeter.

The calibration -- For properly calibrated LightBoost monitor, the differences do greatly diminish. If you haven't recalibrated your LightBoost monitor, getting a Spyder sensor or another colorimeter, can be the biggest upgrade your monitor has ever had. If color is the issue, keep the monitor and calibrate.

The size issue -- Legitimate concern. Then again, the 27" DPI down to 24" DPI can look better for a small desk since 27" is rather large and very subject to the TN viewing angle issue. I must admit the 27" is rather large and low density (Mind you, I'm spoiled by Mac Retina displays too); but I've kept it anyway because other members in the household like the larger size. I'd rather have a 27" LightBoost monitor than go back to my old 24" Samsung 245BW non-LightBoost monitor which I was using previously (I got it in 2007; one of the first 2ms TN's with near-zero input lag). I'm losing 1200p and getting 1080p; but gaining the zero motion blur capability.
Edited by mdrejhon - 3/21/13 at 2:51pm
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I took shots of 120hz nonlightboost, 144hz and 120 hz Lightboost. You can tell the difference between the Lighboost and nonlightboost tests in Pixperan. I did the nonlightboost videos at tempo 15. The lighboost was done at 30. Tell me if Im wrong but can't you tell which one is clearer. I know everyone has said that a video can't show the real results because it depends on the setup you are watching it from. But it looks pretty obvious to me. I even switch bacxk to 60 hz and watched the videos on youtube and could tell a difference. Am I crazy or no? Just want to do my part to show people the improvement in motion blur we all see since Im not able to participate as in depth as Mark and Vega thumb.gif

144 hz non LB http://youtu.be/amEfh4InJAI
120 hz non Lb http://youtu.be/1KObCyOiqyI
120 LB http://youtu.be/qUA9RxrN4B4
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Nice panning, did you do that by hand?

You can tell the difference because when you keep up with the text it is mostly stationary, so even 60Hz LCDs can view that.
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I took shots of 120hz nonlightboost, 144hz and 120 hz Lightboost. You can tell the difference between the Lighboost and nonlightboost tests in Pixperan. I did the nonlightboost videos at tempo 15. The lighboost was done at 30. Tell me if Im wrong but can't you tell which one is clearer. I know everyone has said that a video can't show the real results because it depends on the setup you are watching it from. But it looks pretty obvious to me. I even switch bacxk to 60 hz and watched the videos on youtube and could tell a difference. Am I crazy or no? Just want to do my part to show people the improvement in motion blur we all see since Im not able to participate as in depth as Mark and Vega thumb.gif

144 hz non LB http://youtu.be/amEfh4InJAI
120 hz non Lb http://youtu.be/1KObCyOiqyI
120 LB http://youtu.be/qUA9RxrN4B4

Great videos! You can definitely see the difference. thumb.gif
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