Overclock.net › Forums › Components › Monitors and Displays › LightBoost, G-SYNC, Turbo240: 120Hz Strobe Backlight LCDs / No Motion Blur!
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

LightBoost, G-SYNC, Turbo240: 120Hz Strobe Backlight LCDs / No Motion Blur! - Page 78

post #771 of 2929
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdrejhon View Post

This can be accomplished by software-based black frame insertion, there's a special modification to MAME emulator that allows the 60Hz LightBoost effect by blacking-out every other refresh:
www.blurbusters.com/mame

Theoretically, it can be implemented as a system-wide software-based black frame insertion driver, that can produce the complete LightBoost effect at 60fps (with the attendant 60Hz flicker and further reduced brightness, as a compromise). This works around the hardware LightBoost limitation of being restricted to 100-120Hz.

So are there any plans to do this in the near future for games like BF3?
writer21
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
3570k @ 4.7 GHz asrock extreme 4 z77 Evga ACX 780 Superclocked 3gb Gddr5 Evga ACX 780 Superclocked 3gb Gddr5 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Trident-X 2400 DDR3 8GB Samsung Evo 840 250GB SSD Western Digital Velociraptor 320GB Hyper Evo 212 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 8.1 PRO 64bit Asus Rog Swift PG278Q 144hz 1440p GSYNC Monitor CoolerMaster QuickFire Cherry MX Red Corsair 750w Tx V2 
CaseMouseMouse Pad
Coolermaster HAF 932 Zowie Fk1 SteelSeries Qck Heavy 
  hide details  
Reply
writer21
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
3570k @ 4.7 GHz asrock extreme 4 z77 Evga ACX 780 Superclocked 3gb Gddr5 Evga ACX 780 Superclocked 3gb Gddr5 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Trident-X 2400 DDR3 8GB Samsung Evo 840 250GB SSD Western Digital Velociraptor 320GB Hyper Evo 212 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 8.1 PRO 64bit Asus Rog Swift PG278Q 144hz 1440p GSYNC Monitor CoolerMaster QuickFire Cherry MX Red Corsair 750w Tx V2 
CaseMouseMouse Pad
Coolermaster HAF 932 Zowie Fk1 SteelSeries Qck Heavy 
  hide details  
Reply
post #772 of 2929
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdrejhon View Post

You need fps=Hz for maximum LightBoost benefits.

Otherwise, the repeated refreshes ends up contributing to sample-and-hold motion blur (double image effects, stutters, increased motion blur, etc). The stroboscopic backlight is enabled only at certain refresh rates (e.g. 100 Hz or 120 Hz), and you need fps=Hz for best motion on stroboscopic displays (CRT, LightBoost). LightBoost and other stroboscopic backlights doesn't look awful at just 60fps, just that most benefits disappear if your strobes aren't synchronized with framerate (which requires frame rate equalling refresh rate).

So you definitely do need 120fps @ 120Hz -- preferably 100fps
Which you can easily do on most systems with a just a high-500 or 600 series GTX if you just run older games (Source engine games). However, to get even just 100fps in games like Crysis 3, you need a Geforce Titan to pull that off. Games like Quake Live, Counterstrike and Team Fortress 2 have no problem attaining 120fps; those games are still fairly popular.

P.S. New Samsung tip. Better colors during stroboscopic mode; change Samsung OSD setting “Magic Angle” to “Group View”

This is exactly what I was curious and inquiring about. I'm about to pull the trigger on a pair of 670's to try and reach that 120fps-120hz goal.
Me Rig
(15 items)
 
HTPC
(7 items)
 
Phenom
(12 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-5820k X99 Extreme4 MSI GTX 1070 SEA HAWK X Corsair Vengeance Series 32GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Seagate 1Tb Samsung 840 SSD Sony 22X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW Hydro Series H80i 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Windows 10 Asus VG278H 3D Vision 2  Cooler Master V1000 Corsair Obsidian 450D 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 MSI Pro e x58 4 - Xfx R9 280x Black DD Corsair 1600mhz 12gn 
Hard DriveOSPower
Crucial 128 SSD Windows 8.1 2xCorsair CS750m 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 2700k Gigabyte Z68MA-D2H-B3 Palit Gtx 480 w/Antec 620 Mod Crucial 16GB Kit DDR3  
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Crucial M4 SSD WD Caviar Black Antec 620 W7 Home 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Asus VH222H Saitek Cyborg Antec BP550 Plus 550W  Dont Ask 
  hide details  
Reply
Me Rig
(15 items)
 
HTPC
(7 items)
 
Phenom
(12 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-5820k X99 Extreme4 MSI GTX 1070 SEA HAWK X Corsair Vengeance Series 32GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Seagate 1Tb Samsung 840 SSD Sony 22X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW Hydro Series H80i 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Windows 10 Asus VG278H 3D Vision 2  Cooler Master V1000 Corsair Obsidian 450D 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 MSI Pro e x58 4 - Xfx R9 280x Black DD Corsair 1600mhz 12gn 
Hard DriveOSPower
Crucial 128 SSD Windows 8.1 2xCorsair CS750m 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 2700k Gigabyte Z68MA-D2H-B3 Palit Gtx 480 w/Antec 620 Mod Crucial 16GB Kit DDR3  
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Crucial M4 SSD WD Caviar Black Antec 620 W7 Home 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Asus VH222H Saitek Cyborg Antec BP550 Plus 550W  Dont Ask 
  hide details  
Reply
post #773 of 2929
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rage19420 View Post

This is exactly what I was curious and inquiring about. I'm about to pull the trigger on a pair of 670's to try and reach that 120fps-120hz goal.
Couldn't you get a single Titan for almost the same price as dual 670's?
You'll get smoother 120fps.
post #774 of 2929
i have a 72in 1080p 120htz mitsubishi dlp tv. will this work on it??
i dont know about getting over 100fps but if im figuring right the tv when in 3d mode does 60fps per eye. cause the graphics says its only a 60htz max. unless when i get a nvidea card it will say something else.
circeseye
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
fx- 8350 ASUS M5A99X EVO powercolor R9 380 4 gig  x G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series  
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Plextor PX-64M5M Samsung 840 LG Black 12X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 12X DVD-RA... air for now 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Win 10 Pro 73in mitsubishi 3d dlp PSFY mechanical led gaming keyboard Rosewill Xtreme Series RX750-S-B 
CaseMouseAudio
CoolerMaster hav-xb Perixx gaming mouse onboard w/ rca 800watt 7.1 surround 
  hide details  
Reply
circeseye
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
fx- 8350 ASUS M5A99X EVO powercolor R9 380 4 gig  x G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series  
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Plextor PX-64M5M Samsung 840 LG Black 12X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 12X DVD-RA... air for now 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Win 10 Pro 73in mitsubishi 3d dlp PSFY mechanical led gaming keyboard Rosewill Xtreme Series RX750-S-B 
CaseMouseAudio
CoolerMaster hav-xb Perixx gaming mouse onboard w/ rca 800watt 7.1 surround 
  hide details  
Reply
post #775 of 2929
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by circeseye View Post

i have a 72in 1080p 120htz mitsubishi dlp tv. will this work on it??
i dont know about getting over 100fps but if im figuring right the tv when in 3d mode does 60fps per eye. cause the graphics says its only a 60htz max. unless when i get a nvidea card it will say something else.
No, you do not have LightBoost. It only applies to LCD monitors that nVidia has licensed LightBoost™ to.

However, if your DLP HDTV is a frame-sequential active 3D TV that uses shutter glasses, you may want to check out the HDTV Refresh Rate Overclocking HOWTO, for inputting 120 Hz 2D into your HDTV. This is different from the LightBoost HOWTO, though.
post #776 of 2929
Thread Starter 
Appears LightBoost is getting small bit of Reddit buzz; you might want to check it out and upvote that.

Link: http://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/1b45u8/nvidia_lightboost_tweak_with_certain_120hz/
post #777 of 2929
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdrejhon View Post

Couldn't you get a single Titan for almost the same price as dual 670's?
You'll get smoother 120fps.

I have a deal lined up for a pair of used 670's for $500. New would be anywhere from $650-$750 for a pair.
Me Rig
(15 items)
 
HTPC
(7 items)
 
Phenom
(12 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-5820k X99 Extreme4 MSI GTX 1070 SEA HAWK X Corsair Vengeance Series 32GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Seagate 1Tb Samsung 840 SSD Sony 22X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW Hydro Series H80i 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Windows 10 Asus VG278H 3D Vision 2  Cooler Master V1000 Corsair Obsidian 450D 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 MSI Pro e x58 4 - Xfx R9 280x Black DD Corsair 1600mhz 12gn 
Hard DriveOSPower
Crucial 128 SSD Windows 8.1 2xCorsair CS750m 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 2700k Gigabyte Z68MA-D2H-B3 Palit Gtx 480 w/Antec 620 Mod Crucial 16GB Kit DDR3  
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Crucial M4 SSD WD Caviar Black Antec 620 W7 Home 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Asus VH222H Saitek Cyborg Antec BP550 Plus 550W  Dont Ask 
  hide details  
Reply
Me Rig
(15 items)
 
HTPC
(7 items)
 
Phenom
(12 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-5820k X99 Extreme4 MSI GTX 1070 SEA HAWK X Corsair Vengeance Series 32GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Seagate 1Tb Samsung 840 SSD Sony 22X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW Hydro Series H80i 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Windows 10 Asus VG278H 3D Vision 2  Cooler Master V1000 Corsair Obsidian 450D 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 MSI Pro e x58 4 - Xfx R9 280x Black DD Corsair 1600mhz 12gn 
Hard DriveOSPower
Crucial 128 SSD Windows 8.1 2xCorsair CS750m 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 2700k Gigabyte Z68MA-D2H-B3 Palit Gtx 480 w/Antec 620 Mod Crucial 16GB Kit DDR3  
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Crucial M4 SSD WD Caviar Black Antec 620 W7 Home 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Asus VH222H Saitek Cyborg Antec BP550 Plus 550W  Dont Ask 
  hide details  
Reply
post #778 of 2929
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rage19420 View Post

I have a deal lined up for a pair of used 670's for $500. New would be anywhere from $650-$750 for a pair.
Gotcha, that's a no-brainer. Good price. Some of the higher end GTX 670's cost over $400, which would throw a pair close to a price of a single Titan.
post #779 of 2929
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdrejhon View Post

Gotcha, that's a no-brainer. Good price. Some of the higher end GTX 670's cost over $400, which would throw a pair close to a price of a single Titan.

Agreed!
Me Rig
(15 items)
 
HTPC
(7 items)
 
Phenom
(12 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-5820k X99 Extreme4 MSI GTX 1070 SEA HAWK X Corsair Vengeance Series 32GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Seagate 1Tb Samsung 840 SSD Sony 22X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW Hydro Series H80i 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Windows 10 Asus VG278H 3D Vision 2  Cooler Master V1000 Corsair Obsidian 450D 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 MSI Pro e x58 4 - Xfx R9 280x Black DD Corsair 1600mhz 12gn 
Hard DriveOSPower
Crucial 128 SSD Windows 8.1 2xCorsair CS750m 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 2700k Gigabyte Z68MA-D2H-B3 Palit Gtx 480 w/Antec 620 Mod Crucial 16GB Kit DDR3  
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Crucial M4 SSD WD Caviar Black Antec 620 W7 Home 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Asus VH222H Saitek Cyborg Antec BP550 Plus 550W  Dont Ask 
  hide details  
Reply
Me Rig
(15 items)
 
HTPC
(7 items)
 
Phenom
(12 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-5820k X99 Extreme4 MSI GTX 1070 SEA HAWK X Corsair Vengeance Series 32GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Seagate 1Tb Samsung 840 SSD Sony 22X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW Hydro Series H80i 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Windows 10 Asus VG278H 3D Vision 2  Cooler Master V1000 Corsair Obsidian 450D 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 MSI Pro e x58 4 - Xfx R9 280x Black DD Corsair 1600mhz 12gn 
Hard DriveOSPower
Crucial 128 SSD Windows 8.1 2xCorsair CS750m 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 2700k Gigabyte Z68MA-D2H-B3 Palit Gtx 480 w/Antec 620 Mod Crucial 16GB Kit DDR3  
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Crucial M4 SSD WD Caviar Black Antec 620 W7 Home 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Asus VH222H Saitek Cyborg Antec BP550 Plus 550W  Dont Ask 
  hide details  
Reply
post #780 of 2929
Im running one of those Asus 24" glossy screens that vega sells combined with a titan gtx and itis amazing. After dialing in the colors I like it better than my sony fw900 and my catleap 2b! This is exactly what i have been waiting years for! Thank you Mark your hard work is greatly appreciated.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Monitors and Displays
Overclock.net › Forums › Components › Monitors and Displays › LightBoost, G-SYNC, Turbo240: 120Hz Strobe Backlight LCDs / No Motion Blur!