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Hi,
I'm pretty new to watercooling and to this forum.

I posted on the 'club' but I think starting a thread with my issue is a better idea..

So here goes - my system specs : (Click to show)
MB: Asus Sabertooth Z77
CPU: i7-3770k
RAM: 2x4GB G-skill TridentX 2400
GPU: MSI GTX 670 (Ref)
PSU: Rosewill 650W Silver
HDs: 1xOCZ Vertex4, 120GB
1xSeagate 7200RPM 2TB
Case: Corsair 500R
TIM: prolimatech PK-3
My loop : (Click to show)
Rads:
- XSPC ex-360 crossflow
- Magicool Slim Profile 2X140mm
Pump:
-MCP-35X (PWM)
Res:
-Alphacool HF 38 Cape Cyclone 150
Blocks:
XSPC Raystorm (CPU)
EK-670-fullcover nickel (GPU)
Fans:
3x Corsair sp-120(performance) on the 360 rad
1x 140 spectre pro + 1x noise blocker nb-eloop on the 280 rad

I use 1/2" ID tubing (Tygon plasti-free e1000), bitspower barbs and some clamps...
Coolant is Mayhem's pastel white.

Now that that's out of the way, my problem is my CPU temps -
I currently have my CPU running at 4.7GHZ and 1.37v. My room temps are around 22c (central heating). CPU temps under load are in the mid 70s.. the 4 cores can be up to 12-14 degrees apart (highest core being ~76, while lowest would be 62-63).
My GPU is heavily OC'd (unlocked bios, 1.2V, 1300 on the core and +500 on the ram), under continuous load it won't go over 40c.

My GPU temps (which are pretty good, right ? ) lead me to believe the loop isn't the problem.. it was running at 75c with the stock cooler, so i'm seeing a 35c drop here.
The CPU however dropped about 10-12 degrees going from air to water.

Things I noticed :
1. Used my wife's temp-probe in the reservoir, left it there with prime95 running for ~45 minutes, coolant temp didn't go over 26c.
2. I re-mounted the CPU block twice after noticing the temps, no change.
3. The 3 fans I have on the 360 rad are connected to the case's fan controller, running them on high makes about 1-2 degrees difference on the CPU temp, vs 'low'.
4. The pump speed causes a 3-5 degrees difference between low (30%) and high (70-100%).

I think that's all I got.. any suggestions ?
    
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post #2 of 27
With that big of a variance in CPU core temps I was going to suggest remounting but you've already done that. I know it sounds stupid, but do you have the CPU block plumed correctly, meaning the correct in and out. Your GPU temps are really good and the water temp isn't getting really high so you should be good there too.
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post #3 of 27
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Hey, thanks for the reply.

Yeah, I double checked that as I was remounting..
my loop is setup this way :

res->pump->360 rad->280rad->cpu->gpu->back to res.
that's the way that made the most sense given the locations of the stuff...

and yes, I did notice the 'in' label on the cpu block and it's hooked up accordingly.
    
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post #4 of 27
Take out the CPU and use a razor blade to check if the heat spreader is concave. If it is, thermal paste can accumulate in the middle and cause bad temps. De-lid the 3770k while you're at it too.
    
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Take the plastic film off the raystorm block.

Trust me, I know you are going to say you did, but they double bag it tongue.gif
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post #6 of 27
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lol, after seeing the temps at first, I was sure the pastic was on there.. that's the main reason I took it out the first time. then I saw there's no plastic.. the temps were the same.. tried to re-mount again with less TIM.. still. crap.

* I already killed a chip when I tried to de-lid it. I'm scared.. but it looks like I have to try again frown.gif
    
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post #7 of 27
Is no joke, Ivy gets really hot as you bump up speed and vcore... The big diference on the cores temps are also cuz of the BAD tim intel put on it... I would suggest you to delid that chip. I am sure you will have a 20c+ drop in temps once you replace that crap tim with Coollaboratory liquid pro on the. (told you that before on the other thread). Kust go check that thread... you will learn about IVY there...All of us there do overclock our chips.
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i read some where that it was not the tim but the heat spreader was a lil high of the cpu and they used more tim than normal. they de lid it and grinned it and put it back on with tim

here a club for deliding
    
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post #9 of 27
Why on earth would you ruin another perfectly good CPU? There is nothing wrong with those CPU temps at all. Ivy bridge is hot, we all know it but so what, let it be hot.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jakusonfire View Post

Why on earth would you ruin another perfectly good CPU? There is nothing wrong with those CPU temps at all. Ivy bridge is hot, we all know it but so what, let it be hot.

I think he's more concerned about the fact that there seems to be little transfer of heat from the CPU into the LCS.
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