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Wow glad i never bought this last weekend. I was actually looking at it lol.
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Hey that sounds a LOT like big rigs/midnight race club in way too many ways haha

Well I was only thinking hypothetically on how some one with rather...unscrupulous...ways of thinking might do this to themselves. They knew what the shape of the game was when they launched it on Steam. They wrote the game's description and features. Did they really think the majority of people would be OK with it? No one can be that short sighted. So I can't help but feel this whole mess was brought on intentionally and that is the only outcome I can see that might make all this press actually be in their benefit.

...but I've never even heard of this Big Rigs/Midnight Race club...if old Sergey has done this type of scam before, I think it is just a little too convenient the way this is playing out.
    
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Oh that lol...that wasn't like this...I don't think any way. They just released a game and chose not to support it there. With WarZ it is like they purposely sabotaged the game. I suppose it was possible they were desperate for money to the point of nearing getting the electricity shut off and they had to do something...but had they actually just said, "Hey, we need to raise money for development. Any one want to pre-order for $20 and get access to what we have?" and then not do ANY sort of micro transactions it would have probably went over well...a lot of people were excited about it. Notice I said were...I don't think many more people will ever buy this game.
Edited by Vagrant Storm - 12/20/12 at 1:40pm
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No lie i would probably spend $15 over a broken game, but this game isn't broken lol. Most people think it's broken, but they just have no patience to actually play the game. Before this game came out I played DayZ. Everyone was saying that warz was a scam and for those preordering will never get to play the game because it was a fake. And what do you know, the game came out. I bashed the game before it came out also. Me and my friends decided to play it and try it out and see if it was better than dayz. Ever since then we never played dayz. We played this game instead because it was much smoother. But we still love dayz since its a good game(just waiting for standalone).
It's fun because you don't have any other game that is open world with zombies everywhere. Been waiting for a game like this for 5 years and finally someone had a great idea to implement it. Don't matter what came first dayz or warz.
I do have to agree I have spent $15 on "broken games" before and they have come out fine. I love Making-History 2 when I bought it (pre-ordered) It was so buggy and rand like crap on a I7-920 but it took time and they fixed it. If Warz was a cash grab wouldn't they have shut it down already when a boat load of people bought it? I have never played Dayz always wanted too just never have, this maybe riding on the coattail of Dayz but there are other games out there that are doing that. I was leery of Warz but I took my leap of faith and I got over my money's worth out of it some times you just have to try it.
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I do have to agree I have spent $15 on "broken games" before and they have come out fine. I love Making-History 2 when I bought it (pre-ordered) It was so buggy and rand like crap on a I7-920 but it took time and they fixed it. If Warz was a cash grab wouldn't they have shut it down already when a boat load of people bought it? I have never played Dayz always wanted too just never have, this maybe riding on the coattail of Dayz but there are other games out there that are doing that. I was leery of Warz but I took my leap of faith and I got over my money's worth out of it some times you just have to try it.

Well think of it this way.. Where has all the money gone from the thousands of people who paid to play the game in alpha/beta? It's certainly not going into the game considering the state it's in. They claim that WarZ has 700,000 registered users. Even if you go by the steam price, that's over 10 million dollars. That's only assuming they paid for it at that price, which anyone who bought the game prior to the steam release didn't. They paid $20, $30, or $50 depending on the package they got. That's a lot of money and would easily cover any development costs and the game could be in a much more stable state with all of its core elements in place. It's not, though, and far from it.

Keep in mind the history of Sergey Titov's games.. A bunch of games that were ripoffs of other games and had very little effort put into them and were mostly unfinished. Sound familiar? Yeah, that's because this is the same situation.
Edited by moocowman - 12/20/12 at 9:17pm
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I love all the layers here.

There's the fraud angle. There's the rip off of DayZ angle. There is the reusing of War Inc resources angle. There is the customer service angle.

Even if the Steam description had been completely accurate, it would still be a bad game created solely to milk money from the uninformed. The devs have no interest in making a good game, they were aiming for the minimum required to make the game passable(and they missed).


When I saw the first teaser trailer, I wondered how odd it has that the player was using a high-end foreign military assault rifle. Not something a survivor was likely to find. Now that I know all models were taking from a military first person shooter, it makes perfect sense. It wasn't used because it made sense or was a good idea; it was used because it was the easiest thing possible. From what I've seen that sums up the entire game.

(The trailer was also staged and seems to have nothing to do with actual game play; just like the screenshots on steam.)
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Can someone explain to me why everyone hates this game?

Because it's the biggest turd of a game pretty much ever that costs money and then wants to charge you money to revive your character when you die. Game's a joke and a bunch of uni students could create a better game with cryengine 3 in a week.
    
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Once again, few players (haters) jumped the gun. The developers have once again listened to the community.

New patch today:

Early revive was removed
Revive time is set to 1 hour

Scoreboard was updated
After dying, you will get disconnected automatically in 60 seconds
Some more Christmas items were added. Try to find them in the Colorado
Zombies were optimized, should improve framerate in Campos, Boulder city
Fixed an issue with items sometimes falling through the ground
Fixed an issue when you were not able to pick up an item if it is partially inside the wall
Fixed an issue that using bandages on other player were not updating item's cool-down properly
Crosshair in 3rd person view was improved
Fixed an issue with grass on low frame rate


Come on, the people who own this game can't say these guys don't listen to the majority. It sucks that the hackers who were banned keep up their protest how "bad" the game is thus creating misconception.
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Once again, few players (haters) jumped the gun. The developers have once again listened to the community.
New patch today:
Early revive was removed
Revive time is set to 1 hour

Scoreboard was updated
After dying, you will get disconnected automatically in 60 seconds
Some more Christmas items were added. Try to find them in the Colorado
Zombies were optimized, should improve framerate in Campos, Boulder city
Fixed an issue with items sometimes falling through the ground
Fixed an issue when you were not able to pick up an item if it is partially inside the wall
Fixed an issue that using bandages on other player were not updating item's cool-down properly
Crosshair in 3rd person view was improved
Fixed an issue with grass on low frame rate

You're acting like they're listening to the community out of their being a good developer. Their backs couldn't be more against the wall, with flak coming from all sides. It was either listen or burn at the stake to a solid crisp.

This changes absolutely nothing about how the game was "released" or the dev's track record up til now, even before this game. Their reputation is forever tarnished. I'll be extremely surprised if this game ever really gets anywhere, especially where it was promised.
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