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It's not being sold as final release, because final release price is going to be $30. Foundation release is exactly what it sounds like and is not a PR term. It's the foundation build of the game that the rest of the updates will be building upon.

Where does it say this on the steam page? If this was any physical product, like say, a car, and it was advertised in a similar way that the steam page shows it, how would I know it wasn't finished? How would I know the car isn't actually complete, and that it's missing a radio, or seats? What's ridiculous is that we can't expect transparency from the developers, instead people have to buy it, get pissed, and now we have developers getting ridiculously defensive and basically saying "the game is good, shut up". From the perspective of someone who wasn't following The WarZ and it's development(myself), seeing the steam store page got me excited, I almost had my friend convinced to buy it. Luckily one of us(me), is a member of this forum, and saw this thread.

You can't in good conscience defend that steam page. It's being sold as if it were a full and final game.
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I was an initial preorder guy. I've only played about 6 hours (mostly for testing purposes) I'd really have liked to get a refund but I do not believe that is possible anymore.
 
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I was an initial preorder guy. I've only played about 6 hours (mostly for testing purposes) I'd really have liked to get a refund but I do not believe that is possible anymore.

Yea I'm on the same boat as you, Sergey said in a gamespy interview that anyone who purchased it through steam would have to contact them for a refund, and that if we bought it from them we would have to contact them, however...He said that when people started requesting refunds they would look at their play time, he said in most cases if they played only around 15mins or so they provided a refund, those who put several or more hours into it were not granted a refund, then if you stayed on them about the refund they threatened that a refund would blacklist their paypal account. I'm assuming they went this route because everyone started hitting them with refund requests. I was going to contact paypal and see what's up...
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The trailer is nothing special and hardly memorable.

The name clearly suggest a ripoff of DayZ, and lacks any effort or creativity.


I personally can believe this is a scam. If i was to develop a game i'd at the very least put more effort into both of the above.
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The devs are really not capable of anything. Yet they're being rewarded for copying other games and practicing shady business tactics.
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It doesn't. It was released to steam as a "foundation release" but the game just left alpha on december 4th. The game has been out since october, it's just now showing up on steam. Just because they're calling it a foundation release doesn't make it any less of a beta. NO game completes its beta stage in 2 weeks, therefore this game is still in beta.

You must've not read much of the source.

Advertising features that are not currently present in the game constitutes fraud.
http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/the-war-z/1226980p1.html
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I'm one of the early adopters of war z, and I can't believe how much outright hatred is coming at this game. It's not the worst thing in the world to play - and it is not finished. Nowhere near claimed to be finished either.
Everything I've read about this game and it's release to the pubic has been made clear that this was not a 'full release' game - but an alpha/beta. The only thing I feel that needs to be added to the steam page is the word BETA somewhere in there. To make it more clear that this game isn't in a finished state, but can be played. A lot like dota 2, if you will. Dota 2 is not in a state that I feel is ready for a release - yet the game has grown so much traction just because 'it's dota'.
The point of all this is - I can't figure out how people are saying this game is as bad as people say it is. I like it wwaaaayy more than dayz - if anything, I don't have to play the mini game that is the storage system of dayz. Good riddance to that pile. I don't enjoy having to manipulate my inventory just right, just to get something to work. That's the number 1 reason I decided to try war z out.
Granted, war z has quite a list of things that still need to be ironed out, but that's what patches are for. As long as the developers keep up with the issues that crop up, I see no reason to believe this can't be a full fledged, and flourishing gameworld to enjoy.
If it is not finished they have no right to ask money for it and sell it.
It saids its version 1.0 so it should be fit for purchase which it simply isn't.
Since when the hell do you need to buy a dam beta?
And before people use minecraft as an example of selling beta's, at least there it was told up front "you are buying a beta".
Edited by Assirra - 12/19/12 at 6:55am
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Bought it then realized that a lot of the features were missing. I'm holding out for the developers to make a comment as i'm sure it has potential
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Everytime I watch a youtube video of bigrigs over the road racing, I can't stop myself from constantly laughing

Who can?... It is a simply terrible amazing piece of manure game.

But jokes aside, come on guys. This is the same guy who made Big Rigs, where you supposedly escape from cops, when there is no police in the game at all. What do you expect? -.-
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Not the first game released on Steam in a alpha state...heck Sword of the Stars 2 took about 1 year after release to get to a state to where the developers considered it a "1.0" state. The game still needs a lot of work to meet the "promises" made by the developers. So you might have to let them have some time to finish things up. Yeah, it sucks and it is stupid that they sold it before it was ready...but it happens a lot. I've just sort of gotten used to it I guess. I gone through this exact scenario on so many games that I don't even count them.

This is another reason why I never pre-order or even buy on release week. Games are never released in a perfect state...at best there will need to be a couple patches...at worst it will not even launch and requires months of work yet.
Edited by Vagrant Storm - 12/19/12 at 7:03am
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