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How do you figure that? the 2600 was released what about 2 years ago and is still over $300 bucks?

I sold a barely used 2600k for $200 almost 6 months ago.
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Lmao, you think a 3770k will be under $200 by the time steamroller hits the streets.

Yes. Because when Haswell comes out, many people will be unloading theirs, and they will rapidly lose value.
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There is no way that is gonna happen bro.

It's inevitable.
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As I said 6300 is better than a i3 or i5 locked.

Not at everything, and the i5 is better at most games.
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plus, its not a dead socket like 1155.

The dead socket argument is meaningless.

LGA-1366 is "dead" too. Indeed it's been dead for more than a year. Guess what? Even if Steamroller is 20-30% faster than Vishera, Gulftown will still be faster, and I'll still be selling mine for sub 200 dollars by then.
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Really? cause my 4.6GHz does just fine.....very easy to put a fan over the vrm's Plus I already stated H80 is overkill.

The FX-6300 hasn't been out long enough for you to know if your board will handle it @ 4.6GHz without issue, long term. Vishera has only been out a few months. It often takes well over a year for a marginal VRM to present issues. The first sign of trouble is usually not being able to power on the system one day, or a pop, then shut down.

I do agree the H80 is overkill.
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I've always suspected you might have a strong bias toward intel, and I think that based on the above, my suspicions are confirmed. OP mentioned he wanted to do CFX/SLI+6300 to which you responded by suggesting he cut corners with a cheapo, dead end board, which doesn't even support CFX/SLI so that he can afford to go with a locked i5. Then, you acknowledge that an overclocked 6300 would be just as good as your original suggestion but continue to try and mislead everyone by saying that OP's plans for a quality mobo (that does CFX @ 16X, 16X) and 6300 would be MORE expensive by $100 while failing to clarify said price difference....
Moreover, you discredit a comparison between two equally priced CPU's in exchange for a comparison between a $130 Vishera CPU and a $300 SB i7 CPU, only to later admit that the component selection "could have been better." All the flip-flopping, cherry picking and the mentioning of Microcenter make it obvious that you are desperately trying to sell something that is probably not in the best interest of the OP. If you weren't biased, then I think the above would not be true, and you would have originally stated what you said on your third post.
Please dont take it personal. I am merely making an observation that I think would help anyone considering your well presented, but often weighted advice.

i figured it was his idea to sway over the op to intel as well.

it has been quite ridiculous reading this thread.



the op really only asked one question, and that was if anyone had any experience with sli or cfx scaling on a 6300.

yet people still forced upon to op to get over the idea of getting a 6300.

why?

im pretty sure the op can figure out cpu performance on his own.


i wish i could help more - my 8350 and my single 7970 does amazing. and i plan on acquiring more 7970s in the future, and that's my attempt on future proofing without completely overhauling the entire rig.
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i wish i could help more - my 8350 and my single 7970 does amazing. and i plan on acquiring more 7970s in the future, and that's my attempt on future proofing without completely overhauling the entire rig.

Just looked through your build logs... you do some great work. And what MC did you go to that you found an XSPC Rad? Last time I went to the one in Tustin they only had one Rad, and it was a 120x1.
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well that turned into a lot more than i thought it was going to be!! i knew before i posted the 3570k would be faster and like i said, i was either going to get teh 3570k or save a few bucks and get the FX6300. i know now that AM3+ will last me longer as a socket and if i OC the FX, it will be about the same as the stock i5, but the OC'd i5 will still be faster.

im thinking now that instead of CFX or SLI, i might just get one big card. i think it would be easier on my PSU and its better for temps and power usage and i wont have any driver issues with 2 cards (though this isnt as big of an issue in newer games/drivers). plus the cost will be the same in the end, though i will have to pay up front. i still think the FX6300 will be fast enough for a 680 or 7970 and free up some monies to get the big card

i wish i got a response like this on my other thread!

http://www.overclock.net/t/1341317/e8400-vs-q6600-these-days#post_18904056

got a q6600 for free and wondering if its better than my e8400 till i purchase my new stuff. everything is in the thread, its a short thread so far.
    
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Oh. Thought you abandoned the thread. Heh, a few more pages than you bargained for, I suppose.

Yeah, going with a single big video card with the fx-6300 is a great idea. With the fx-6300 you can have fun overclocking, still have some extra $ to put into video card compared to the i5-3570k, and one big card is just generally better than two small ones. If you're willing to overclock your GPU as well as your CPU, I suggest you go with AMD. Nvidia cards are very limited in users' ability to overclock them, and AMD is often more cost-effective even without that advantage. The Nvidia cards are often a bit quieter though. If your monitor is 1920x1080 a 7950, overclocked, will probably do everything you could want it to. For a bigger resolution or just for kicks you could go with a 7970. Just don't get an XFX double d cooler. XFX has terrible quality control on their radeon 7xxx cards. Maybe one of these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202006
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202008

As for your other thread, whichever old processor has faster clock speed will be better for most things, but the q6600 will be better for BF3, as it is a quad-core. Despite that option, I wouldn't wait for Haswell. It probably won't do anything earth-shattering performance-wise, and waiting 6 months for a significant upgrade sucks.
    
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I looked at some benches and chose a 670. nv has an advantage in bf3 and thats my biggest concern. the 7950 didn't really give the performance I'm looking for in a single card setup. the 7970 is more expensive and doesn't out perform the 670 in bf3. and the 680 isn't enough of an improvement for an extra 100 dollars. i usually don't care about noise and heat but the 670 is so much better in these areas than the 7970, it did sway my decision some. I'm looking at an msi card with the twinfrozr cooler and a stock oc above a 1 ghz for 375

ill only wait for haswell if its only a couple weeks. if its still months away i won't bother
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I looked at some benches and chose a 670. nv has an advantage in bf3 and thats my biggest concern. the 7950 didn't really give the performance I'm looking for in a single card setup. the 7970 is more expensive and doesn't out perform the 670 in bf3. and the 680 isn't enough of an improvement for an extra 100 dollars. i usually don't care about noise and heat but the 670 is so much better in these areas than the 7970, it did sway my decision some. I'm looking at an msi card with the twinfrozr cooler and a stock oc above a 1 ghz for 375
ill only wait for haswell if its only a couple weeks. if its still months away i won't bother

How old were the benches you were looking at? Ever since the 12.11B driver release, the 79XX line has been smacking nvidia around in almost all games, including BF3. The only reason to go with nvidia these days is if you need physx. Otherwise, the Radeon cards are superior in every way except maybe power consumption.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1322119/12-11-vs-310-33

http://hardocp.com/article/2012/08/23/galaxy_gtx_660_ti_gc_oc_vs_670_hd_7950/3

Even with a clock advantage, the 670 can't beat a 7950. This is PRE-12.11 Drivers

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hmmm, i havent seen those. i think a lot of the benches were near the card release date.

according to that bench the 660Ti is almost as fast as the 670 and 7950, which are both more expensive.

and i wouldnt call the BF3 benchmark you posted "smacking around" nvidia. the avg FPS are the same and the min and max are within 3fps of each other

ill look at your other links also.

i hadnt thought of the new driver releases and their impact on performance. ill search for more recent benches.
    
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hmmm, i havent seen those. i think a lot of the benches were near the card release date.
according to that bench the 660Ti is almost as fast as the 670 and 7950, which are both more expensive.
and i wouldnt call the BF3 benchmark you posted "smacking around" nvidia. the avg FPS are the same and the min and max are within 3fps of each other
ill look at your other links also.
i hadnt thought of the new driver releases and their impact on performance. ill search for more recent benches.

He did say that the bench he posted were before the drivers were fixed.
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op, i suggest you get the 8350/20. bf3, especially multi-player loves the extra cores. here is bf3 in a 64 man server with my 7950 at stock using 12.11 driverand my chip at 4.5 GHz . . . .




here are my settings . . .


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