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There is one advantage nvidia has over AMD in graphics cards - Nvidia cards tend to run a bit quieter. But other than that AMD wins price-performance pretty handily.
    
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There is one advantage nvidia has over AMD in graphics cards - Nvidia cards tend to run a bit quieter. But other than that AMD wins price-performance pretty handily.

depends on the type of cooler. the cooling solutions used by manufacturers are pretty much the same. when i had my windforce stock cooler on my gpu i had to check once and awhile to see if the fans were running during heavy load. they are that quiet. well, now, all i can hear is the sound of the game i am playing.biggrin.gif it is wet now.
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Yeah, it's not a big difference. But even with the same cooler the actual GPU in the Nvidia cards are larger than in the AMD cards and put out a little less heat overall. The larger die size means the heat produced by the Nvidia cards is less concentrated & the die generally has better contact with the heat pipes of the cooler. So Nvidia GPUs are quieter.

Mind you, I still recommend AMD cards and I like quiet computing. But the difference is there.
    
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He did say that the bench he posted were before the drivers were fixed.

my apologies. even before driver fixes, i haven't seen those 3 cards that close to each other in any other benchmark
    
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He did say that the bench he posted were before the drivers were fixed.

Yes I did, thanks!

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my apologies. even before driver fixes, i haven't seen those 3 cards that close to each other in any other benchmark

NP. Personally, I take [H]ardocp reviews very lightly. Depending on what products they're trying to push, they can be very biased and un-fair.
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like I said... most new games it doesnt matter, most games are GPU based... only a few newr gamers run better on intel becasue of console ports
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i looked up some more benches with the new AMD drivers and it does seem that all the AMD cards went up a notch on NV. i am considering the 7970/50 again. i personally thought the 79xx cards should be faster due to the 384bit memory bus and resulting 3gb of memory. NV has always choked down their cards with a slower mem bus. i think a 7970 with an MSI cooler etc would be a great card.

my luck is that ill finally get the money and decide on a card and the new gen will come out and this process will repeat... bitter sweet moment i suppose.

im starting to worry about my GPU now... my screen has started to flicker a bit in some games. im wondering if all the benchmarking while OCing has degraded my GPU... i need it to last just a little longer!! i havent gone above 1.2v and temps stay in the 64-72*C range....
    
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i looked up some more benches with the new AMD drivers and it does seem that all the AMD cards went up a notch on NV. i am considering the 7970/50 again. i personally thought the 79xx cards should be faster due to the 384bit memory bus and resulting 3gb of memory. NV has always choked down their cards with a slower mem bus. i think a 7970 with an MSI cooler etc would be a great card.
my luck is that ill finally get the money and decide on a card and the new gen will come out and this process will repeat... bitter sweet moment i suppose.
im starting to worry about my GPU now... my screen has started to flicker a bit in some games. im wondering if all the benchmarking while OCing has degraded my GPU... i need it to last just a little longer!! i havent gone above 1.2v and temps stay in the 64-72*C range....

The increased memory and bandwidth really shines when you begin to play with high resolutions and multi-monitor setups. Its crazy when you think about it; You can spend $100+ LESS on a 7970 yet get considerable performance gains over a GTX680. Nvidia dropped the ball on this one... doh.gif













They Scale amazingly too!



http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/12/04/gtx_680_vs_radeon_hd_7970_multidisplay_showdown/1

So again, there is absolutely no reason to invest in Nvidia except for MAYBE Physx requirements.
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i looked up some more benches with the new AMD drivers and it does seem that all the AMD cards went up a notch on NV. i am considering the 7970/50 again. i personally thought the 79xx cards should be faster due to the 384bit memory bus and resulting 3gb of memory. NV has always choked down their cards with a slower mem bus. i think a 7970 with an MSI cooler etc would be a great card.
my luck is that ill finally get the money and decide on a card and the new gen will come out and this process will repeat... bitter sweet moment i suppose.
im starting to worry about my GPU now... my screen has started to flicker a bit in some games. im wondering if all the benchmarking while OCing has degraded my GPU... i need it to last just a little longer!! i havent gone above 1.2v and temps stay in the 64-72*C range....

Might want to take a good look at this thread before you buy a gpu http://www.overclock.net/t/1340733/nordic-hardware-7970-ghz-vs-680-microstuttering-and-uneven-render-times
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Hello. Is it worth to change Phenom II X4 @4 GHz upon FX 6300 for Battlefield 3 multiplayer? On current CPU with Radeon 7950 FPS sometimes goes down to 40, which is not very well. I'm playing on minimum graphic settings and want framerate as high as possible. I know i5 will help in this case, but it costs more. Besides perfomance of my Phenom II X4 is enough for me in any other task.
Sorry for mistakes.
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Hello. Is it worth to change Phenom II X4 @4 GHz upon FX 6300 for Battlefield 3 multiplayer? On current CPU with Radeon 7950 FPS sometimes goes down to 40, which is not very well. I'm playing on minimum graphic settings and want framerate as high as possible. I know i5 will help in this case, but it costs more. Besides perfomance of my Phenom II X4 is enough for me in any other task.
Sorry for mistakes.

Absolutely!
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