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Isn't the Amps on the 12V also important?The Seasonic G Series 550W has 46A while the seasonic 620W has 48W and the CX750 - 62 biggrin.gif

 

It's the same as the +12V wattage capacity.  The 550W SeaSonic G Series has 45, not 46.  :)  45A is 540W, 48A is 576W, and 62A is 744W.. The formula is, multiply the voltage by the amps, or the amps by the voltage (the order doesn't matter).

 

 

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I can't find the CX750 on the PSU recommended list so i think it isn't in the game anymore.

 

Well, it should be.  I think that they just haven't updated it in a while.

 

 

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Being Gold Rated,i guess it means it delivers almost all it's power on the 12V,good efficiency if i'm not wrong?

 

The efficiency refers to how much power is lost as heat during the conversion from the raw power at the wall outlet to the usable power that the system pulls out of the PSU.

 

So, let's say that your system pulls exactly 350W for a certain test or a game.  It would work out like this:

 

  1. To deliver 350W at 80% efficiency, it would need to pull 438W from the wall outlet.
  2. To deliver 350W at 85% efficiency, it would need to pull 412W from the wall outlet.
  3. To deliver 350W at 90% efficiency, it would need to pull 389W from the wall outlet.

 

So, the more efficient the PSU is, the less power it needs to pull from the wall outlet for a given power draw.

 

In other words, the efficiency is only as important as you make it  Some people don't care about it while others need to care very much about it.  A PSU's efficiency is not indicative of its quality.  There are 80+ Gold PSUs out there that aren't all that good.

 

 

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And btw,how is the SSR-550W SLI/Crossfire ready when my current HD 6850 require 2x6pin ?

 

It's just marketing.  :)

 

You mentioned that you wouldn't mind using Molex to PCI-E adapters, so that's why I feel confident recommending this PSU.

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It's the same as the +12V wattage capacity.  The 550W SeaSonic G Series has 45, not 46.  smile.gif  45A is 540W, 48A is 576W, and 62A is 744W.. The formula is, multiply the voltage by the amps, or the amps by the voltage (the order doesn't matter).



Well, it should be.  I think that they just haven't updated it in a while.



The efficiency refers to how much power is lost as heat during the conversion from the raw power at the wall outlet to the usable power that the system pulls out of the PSU.

So, let's say that your system pulls exactly 350W for a certain test or a game.  It would work out like this:
  1. To deliver 350W at 80% efficiency, it would need to pull 438W from the wall outlet.
  2. To deliver 350W at 85% efficiency, it would need to pull 412W from the wall outlet.
  3. To deliver 350W at 90% efficiency, it would need to pull 389W from the wall outlet.

So, the more efficient the PSU is, the less power it needs to pull from the wall outlet for a given power draw.

In other words, the efficiency is only as important as you make it  Some people don't care about it while others need to care very much about it.  A PSU's efficiency is not indicative of its quality.  There are 80+ Gold PSUs out there that aren't all that good.



It's just marketing.  smile.gif

You mentioned that you wouldn't mind using Molex to PCI-E adapters, so that's why I feel confident recommending this PSU.
Ok,just had a talk with my parents and they said to get the one with the best warranty/RMA service.By that i mean longest,hassle-free,applicable in EUROPE!!!Bulgaria is part of the European Union if that helps.
Between this three PSU's,which one has best/longest warranty available in Bulgaria too.
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post #23 of 51
The Seasonic G 550 (SSR-550) is easily the best and it's what you should opt for.
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OK i think i'm really going too crazy with this 750W...but i've read corsair has better RMA/warranty process...
So summing things up,that's for what i'm looking for:
1/longevity of it's life
2/build quality
3/warranty applicable in Bulgaria(Europe)
4/how the PSU performs
5/design/cables etc
So..
1 and 2.I understood the Corsair has better high-end build quility so i guess longer lifespam?
3.dunno,still waiting for answer(corsair has support in European union so i guess it has support in Bulgaria)
4.They're all great with the SSR-550RM at the front being Gold Rated
5.SSR-550RM takes the win here again - modular .Corsair's one,f*cking tons of cables.All the reviews in newegg are about the tons of cables that comes with it.But 744W on the 12V and 62Amps though..
Seasonic S12II 620W Bronze Rated - 117 bulgarian lev
Seasonic SSR-550RM Modular Gold Rated - 154 bulgarian lev
Corsair CX 750 Bronze Rated - 167 bulgarian lev
Still waiting for answer from seasonic for the warranty here in Bulgaria,if it has,i guess i'll go for the SSR-550RM that was proposed by Two Cables.
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The Seasonic G 550 (SSR-550) is easily the best and it's what you should opt for.
Ok,i'm now almost set on this PSU.If seasonic warranty is applicable here is BG i'll go for it but still i have one question: Will there ever be a setup with a single GPU that would require more than 550watts?
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So..
1 and 2.I understood the Corsair has better high-end build quility so i guess longer lifespam?
3.dunno,still waiting for answer(corsair has support in European union so i guess it has support in Bulgaria)
1'st, No, the CX 750 it's inferior to both Seasonic units and it's completely incomparable to the G 550, it's in a whole different league, quality and performance wise.
2'nd, No, Corsair has no EU office, if you need to do a direct RMA you will have to ship your unit either to the US or Taiwan, Seasonic does have an EU office.
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Can you buy from places like scan.uk? I would say the XFX 650w listed here is a good option.Your suppliers seem to be pretty limited and expensive(though it's really hard to tell with the conversions).
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/650w-xfx-pro-series-core-edition-p1-650s-ukb9-85-eff-80-plus-bronze-sli-crossfire-eps-12v-fan-atx-v2
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1'st, No, the CX 750 it's inferior to both Seasonic units and it's completely incomparable to the G 550, it's in a whole different league, quality and performance wise.
2'nd, No, Corsair has no EU office, if you need to do a direct RMA you will have to ship your unit either to the US or Taiwan, Seasonic does have an EU office.
Ok that was all i needed to hear.First thing after school tomorrow,ordering the new PSU! I'm still not sure if modular and gold rated is required but you guys said you,i'm 99% on the SSR-550W.S12II is still a possibility though.. thumb.gif

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Can you buy from places like scan.uk? I would say the XFX 650w listed here is a good option.Your suppliers seem to be pretty limited and expensive(though it's really hard to tell with the conversions).
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/650w-xfx-pro-series-core-edition-p1-650s-ukb9-85-eff-80-plus-bron


UK 65 converted to BG lev is 170LV.It's almost the price the SSR-650W is(185lv,damn i can't stretch the budget that far mad.gifmad.gif)

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Ok,i'm now almost set on this PSU.If seasonic warranty is applicable here is BG i'll go for it but still i have one question: Will there ever be a setup with a single GPU that would require more than 550watts?

 

No, because each new generation that comes out requires less power than the previous.  That's why two GTX 680s in your system would never max out this PSU (unless you overclocked the 680s heavily).

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Modularity and Gold rating is not required.  Being modular is superior for cable management and ease of installation and also ease of uninstallation.  Gold rating is nice, and I detailed why above.  :)

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Modularity and Gold rating is not required.  Being modular is superior for cable management and ease of installation and also ease of uninstallation.  Gold rating is nice, and I detailed why above.  smile.gif
Ok guys,thx you all for the amazing help you gave me.Tomorrow i'll just think a bit about it.If I was buying only the PSU,i would get the SSR-550RM asap! The thing is - i have to gather money for a case too.That's why i'm kinda leaning toward the S12II 620W so i can buy a case sooner but who knows,i might just get the SSR-550RM and be glad with the amazing purchase.It would be finally a PSU that's not complete ****.After all i've bought,it would be my first. +rep to all! thumb.gif
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