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Hey guys,
I've been searching around for a while but keep hitting dead ends, hopefully someone is more knowledgeable than me in this area.

I'm currently running 2x120gb Agility 3 SSDs in RAID 0 using the Intel SATA 3 ports on my Gigabyte GA-X79-UD3. In the BIOS I am getting smart event (0), but any attempts to delve further within Windows are futile due to the nature of RAID. So, I've assumed that it is related to TRIM, and how it has not been working on my drives. Doing a HD Tune test, here are my results. Bear in mind they were >500mb/s when I first installed.



What do I need to do to enable TRIM? I've heard it now works with 1155 and some 1156 boards (series 7?) but not yet working with socket 2011 due to using Intel RSTe instead of RST (am not sure)? I've also read there's some hack to enable this; where can I find some instructions?

Thank you very much in advance smile.gif.
 
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Current RSTe ROMs/drivers do not correctly support TRIM in RAID 0.

However, it is possible to mod an X79 board's firmware to replace the RSTe ROM with the standard RST ROM.

I just checked and the newest beta BIOS for your board has RST 11.6, which should work: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4050&dl=1#bios
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Current RSTe ROMs/drivers do not correctly support TRIM in RAID 0.
However, it is possible to mod an X79 board's firmware to replace the RSTe ROM with the standard RST ROM.
I just checked and the newest beta BIOS for your board has RST 11.6, which should work: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4050&dl=1#bios

Fixed. Thankyou. TRIM is now enabled and I'm back to getting awesome speeds. Thanks again.



Oh, and hey, fixed an audio issue I was having too. Killed 2 birds with one stone. THANKS!

EDIT: Quick question - hopefully you see this - I was getting a SMART event (Just "at risk") and I'm reading this was due to slow degradation. Is it possible that this was due to TRIM not being enabled, and now that it is I can safely suppress this; or is this different/unrelated?
Edited by samywamy10 - 12/20/12 at 5:46am
 
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What was the exact SMART event?
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For RAID volumes like that, you pretty much have to use Linux to dump useful SMART info. It involves flipping to AHCI or IDE mode (temporarily breaking the array), firing up a LiveCD (like Parted Magic or System Rescue CD) and then using smartctl or gsmartcontrol to show the SMART info. Once you've got some screenshots and/or run some extended SMART tests, you can exit the LiveCD and re-enable RAID mode.

If you try to do that with Windows, it'll usually write stuff to each individual drive, killing the array - only works fine with *nix variants like Linux.

Edit: I'm not sure what extended SMART tests do for SSDs. For HDDs they read the entire drive, and may rewrite the entire drive. (that's what chkdsk does - reads every sector and rewrites it, testing whether it is healthy - if the same for SSDs, this would imply writing ~256GB to a 256GB SSD.)
Edited by Kramy - 12/20/12 at 1:15pm
     
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CrystalDiskInfo 5.x.x will give an accurate SMART status of the drives in RAID on my iCH10R and X79 setups, in Windows.
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Hmm. Not sure what is up here. Any thoughts?



EDIT: Also looking at my speeds; could they be faster? Considering RAID 0? The firmware of one of the drives is 2.15, whereas the other is 2.22; would it be worth updating the firmware?
Edited by samywamy10 - 12/21/12 at 6:15pm
 
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Current RSTe ROMs/drivers do not correctly support TRIM in RAID 0.
However, it is possible to mod an X79 board's firmware to replace the RSTe ROM with the standard RST ROM.
I just checked and the newest beta BIOS for your board has RST 11.6, which should work: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4050&dl=1#bios

Am I able to do this with my Corsair Force GT 120GBs and Sabertooth x79?
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EDIT: Also looking at my speeds; could they be faster? Considering RAID 0? The firmware of one of the drives is 2.15, whereas the other is 2.22; would it be worth updating the firmware?

Matched firmware versions seem like a good idea to me - sometimes firmware updates change performance characteristics, which can have somewhat large impacts on 4K or sequential speeds. Matching them up would probably be best.
     
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