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You've basically described Best Buy's business model right there. And as much as I wish they'd go out of business, unfortunately, Best Buy is thriving mad.gif
Somebody needs to protect the customer from themselves and from unscrupulous Best Buy salespeople. Apple learned that about 10 years ago and has been very successful ever since. Microsoft, on the other hand, still hasn't completely gotten the message yet. The OEMs are pretty much powerless here, since they can't stop the retailer from misrepresenting the product other than by doing what Acer did and simply not offer Windows RT.
Funny you should mention car dealerships. They're very well known for their (lack of) integrity rolleyes.gif

Shouldn't the customer protect themselves from themselves. It's their money after all. And if they can't do that, then I bet they don't care if they have to buy new apps.
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Shouldn't the customer protect themselves from themselves. It's their money after all. And if they can't do that, then I bet they don't care if they have to buy new apps.

I believe the phrase "the customer is always right" sums up how customers see themselves. As you've noticed, even when the customers fail to protect themselves, they never take responsibility. Instead, they blame Microsoft and the OEMs. Which is exactly what's going on here.

Whether or not blaming Microsoft can be justified is irrelevant - after all, the tendency to blame Microsoft is what sunk Vista. Back in 2007, users were purchasing cheap PCs that barely met Vista's minimum system requirements. When they discovered that their brand new PC could barely even boot to the desktop without lagging, do you think they went out and bought hardware upgrades to speed up their system? Of course not. They simply started blaming Microsoft for making a bloated OS. As a result, Vista developed a horrible reputation and the masses stayed away from it.

In the end, it's Microsoft's problem regardless of what the root cause is or where the fault lies. Microsoft can always choose to insist that they're right and simply ignore any and all complaints, but that would not be a good course of action if they want to stay in business.
Edited by Peon - 12/25/12 at 10:50pm
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If Microsoft were to allow it, I'm sure someone (VMware and Wine are prime suspects) would step up to the plate and come up with something very quickly.

Certainly it CAN be done. Whether or not the current ARM chips have enough horsepower to get the job done in an acceptable manner (emulation always has a rather hefty performance penalty) is another matter entirely.

Back in the PPC heyday, the G3/G4 chips had substantially more compute power than what they were emulating (pentium II, 4MB ram S3 trio). I don't think a mobile ARM chip can make the same claim today.
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Apple Bytemarked the G3/233 and G3/266 against the Compaq 5100 PII/300 and 4860 PII/333, publishing these integer results on their site:

Pentium II, 300 MHz 4.26
Pentium II, 333 MHz 4.64
PM G3, 233 MHz 7.88 - 69.8% faster than PII/333
PM G3, 266 MHz 9.01 - 94.2% faster than PII/333
from: http://lowendmac.com/musings/pentiumii.shtml
(there's something to be said for NOT having to maintain backwards compatibility with every chip you've ever built *cough* x86 *cough*)

something MATLAB related: http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/newsreader/view_thread/5180

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They haven't made that kind of noise since. (don't even get me started on the powerwhore G5, aka a POWER4 chip with altivec stuck on the side of the die (long live altivec/VMX!))
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