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post #11 of 21
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Originally Posted by Velict View Post

This is very helpful. I am open to modding anything with this build. I thought that the sb-e extreme's fans were already PWM fans?

"Die beiden doppelt kugelgelagerten TY 145 Lüfter sind PWM-geregelt und passen sich automatisch an die individuellen Gegebenheiten an. Um beide Lüfter über einen mainboardseitigen PWM-Anschluss betreiben zu können, befindet sich ein passendes Y-Kabel im Lieferumfang. Durch die Verwendung eines zweiten 140 mm Lüfters erhöht Thermalright die Kompatibilität des Kühlers zu schmaleren Gehäusen. " on their site.
post #12 of 21
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Oh wow, sorry for the third post in a row, i just kept on noticing random things. The cooler that you posted is a special edition, and the one that i'm buying is the extreme edition. I"m going to look up and see if there is a difference in performance, and if there isn't a difference, i really want the special edition version....the orange and red fans are a little bit too obnoxious.

I was going to go with some cable sleeving, scheming to match those red and orange fans.


scheming for instance, for the atx power connector, would have a pattern like this.
post #13 of 21
Performnace is quite different between SA SB-E and SA SB-E Extreme. 8c different at full speed.. And 4 times as loud at full speed too! (Every 10dBA increase sounds twice as loud to human ear) But if you keep the TY-143 fans below 1300rpm they sound the same as other TY-140 series fans. I'm TC14PE has TY-143's on it and case is TY-140's wink.gif

Fan speeds TY-140 & TY-143 on same PWM signal
TY-140. TY-143
. 601rpm 709rpm
. 692. . . 711
. 806. . . 792
. 900. . . 990
. 998 . . 1269
1100 . . 1650
1203 . . 2000
1300 . . 2491

i7 3820 @4.75GHz
Temperature is delta.
H100 . . . . . . . . 41c 2500rpm. . . . . . . . 55dBA 2
SA SB-E . . . . . . 42c 1000rpm & 1300rpm 38dBA TY-150 & TY-141
SA SB-E Extreme 34c 2500rpm. . . . . . . . 56dBA 2x TY-143
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6xrsuPwDbo
jump in to 3:40 for results
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Originally Posted by Velict View Post

"Die beiden doppelt kugelgelagerten TY 145 Lüfter sind PWM-geregelt und passen sich automatisch an die individuellen Gegebenheiten an. Um beide Lüfter über einen mainboardseitigen PWM-Anschluss betreiben zu können, befindet sich ein passendes Y-Kabel im Lieferumfang. Durch die Verwendung eines zweiten 140 mm Lüfters erhöht Thermalright die Kompatibilität des Kühlers zu schmaleren Gehäusen. " on their site.
That's all fine and good with TY-141 & TY-150 or 2x TY-145 fans with 0.20A fans but TY-143's are 0.60A... 3 times as much power for each fan... 6 times as much power demand on motherboard for 2x TY-143's than 2x TY-141/145/147 fans.

Personally I don't want 1.2A load on my motherboard CPU fan socket.
post #14 of 21
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True. 56 dbm is pretty loud, but i mean that is at max rpm, and that's not so loud in real life, and in a case, or even with sound dampening foam in a case. I love how it the extreme out performs the h100. I'm just waiting for my items to come in the mail.

this is my current updated build. I changed it around a lot. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tKTD

I bought the peripherals, fans, power supply, case, dvd drive, cpu, heatsink, and memory


Will this work for the extra power for the fans + PWM control? http://www.frozencpu.com/products/13548/cab-464/Akasa_Flexa_FP5_PWM_5-Way_Splitter_-_Smart_Fan_Cable_AK-CBFA03-45.html?tl=g2c251s1325

I want to connect maybe another 3 fans to this connector. Having 5 fans connected to this cable won't divide the power dramatically will it? If it does, i'll just go for the two way PWM splitter.
Edited by Velict - 12/23/12 at 4:35am
post #15 of 21
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Originally Posted by Velict View Post

True. 56 dbm is pretty loud, but i mean that is at max rpm, and that's not so loud in real life, and in a case, or even with sound dampening foam in a case. I love how it the extreme out performs the h100. I'm just waiting for my items to come in the mail.
this is my current updated build. I changed it around a lot. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tKTD
I bought the peripherals, fans, power supply, case, dvd drive, cpu, heatsink, and memory
Will this work for the extra power for the fans + PWM control? http://www.frozencpu.com/products/13548/cab-464/Akasa_Flexa_FP5_PWM_5-Way_Splitter_-_Smart_Fan_Cable_AK-CBFA03-45.html?tl=g2c251s1325
I want to connect maybe another 3 fans to this connector. Having 5 fans connected to this cable won't divide the power dramatically will it? If it does, i'll just go for the two way PWM splitter.
"sound dampening foam" is a myth. It helps stop sound reflection and the heavy mats on Define R series cases helps stop vibration / harmonic resonance... and the rubber mounted HDD's also help stop vibration / resonance. The best way to keep a system quiet is by using quiet components.

That PWM splitter will work BUT I have had problems with the wires breaking off at the pins into fan plug and molex socket. The braiding and heatshrink come to the connectors but DO NOT CAPTURE the connector. This means the last 30-50mm is rigid > flexible bit of lead > connector pin = stress fatigue of flexible bit of lead breaking if you spend much time trying to sort out the spaghetti mess of 10 braided leads with 5 leads coming from fan plug and 5 more leads from molex socket with one of each each (fan plug & molex socket) going to each of the 5 fan sockets!!


Try and find one that is more like this Gelid PWM splitter

http://www.gelidsolutions.com/products/index.php?lid=2&cid=11&id=63

Or something like this


If you can't get anything but the one you posted link to, group all the wires together with tape about 10-15cm from fan plug & molex socket. Do the same to each pair from fan sockets in a couple of places.
post #16 of 21
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Is it possible to dongle two of the gelid together? Just, put a male PWM portion of one, into one of the connectors of another one's female connector, and power both molex's simultaneously, but using a single PWM to the 4 pin pwm header for the CPU?

Someone wrote a review on frozencpu.com saying they dongled two and were able to power and control 9 fans without a problem. My thinking with this is that, the only thing your motherboard fan header is going to do is supply the modulation for the fan speed, and the power is coming from the molex, so it seems that will be perfectly fine to do.

What are your ideas? Is this plausible? I honestly don't want to go with using a fan controller, i want all my fans to be controlled by the system.
post #17 of 21
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Originally Posted by Velict View Post

Is it possible to dongle two of the gelid together? Just, put a male PWM portion of one, into one of the connectors of another one's female connector, and power both molex's simultaneously, but using a single PWM to the 4 pin pwm header for the CPU?
Someone wrote a review on frozencpu.com saying they dongled two and were able to power and control 9 fans without a problem. My thinking with this is that, the only thing your motherboard fan header is going to do is supply the modulation for the fan speed, and the power is coming from the molex, so it seems that will be perfectly fine to do.
What are your ideas? Is this plausible? I honestly don't want to go with using a fan controller, i want all my fans to be controlled by the system.
Yes it works great. I do it myself... and have ran up to 9 fans... but it all depends on how strong your motherboard PWM signal is. I have no problems with 7 fans, 8 and 9 fans work but sometime I wondered if they were changing speed like they all should when I changed settings... Sometimes it seemed not all were changing small speed adjustments like 7 or less do, but I'm not positive of this because I don't have enough rpm monitors to watch them all. biggrin.gif Right now I'm only running 5 in my Define R2 case. 3 TY-140 intakes keeps my case cool as a cucumber.
post #18 of 21
I don'tkknow if you are absolutely set on AMD, but if not I would stronglyrrecommend getting an i7 3770K, i5 3570K, or even a 2500K/2600K/2700K. For themmotherboard, I'd get the Gigabyte Z77X-UP7 as my first choice, and then it'sa toss-up bbetween the Maximus 5 Extreme/Formula, G1.Sniper M3, and Z77 OC Formula.

I thinkthat any ccombination of the above will serve you far better than anything AMD has to offer currently.
   
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7 3930K @ 4.92Ghz Asus Rampage 4 Extreme EVGA GTX670 FTW 2GB  EVGA GTX780Ti Classified K|ngp|n Edition @ 1483... 
GraphicsRAMHard DriveHard Drive
EVGA GTX780Ti Classified K|ngp|n Edition @ 1483... 16GB G.Skill Ripjaws-Z @ DDR3-2248 9-10-9-26 1T Samsung 830 256GB SSD WD10EZEX 1TB HDD 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
WD10EALX 1TB HDD Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 1TB WD3200AAKS 320GB HDD WD5000HHTZ 10krpm 500GB VelociRaptor 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
LG/Hitachi Slim DVD-R/W Custom MB-Backside VRM-sinks (Copper) 3x NZXT RF-FX140LB 1-2krpm 98.3CFM Case Fans 2x Corsair SP120-PE Case Fans 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Heatkiller GTX680 "Hole Edition" Block + Backplate XSPC Single-Bay Res (Single 5.25 bay) EK Multioption Res X2 - Advanced 150 DD "Fill-Port Res" + Fill-Port Fitting (Red) 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
2x MCP35X + Heatsinks/80x15mm Fan XSPC EX420 Alphacool NeXXos UT60 240 6x Bgears Blasters 140mm 1800rpm Fans 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
4x Koolance 120x25mm 2600rpm Fans Comp/Rotary Fittings (BP/XSPC/Monsoon) Primoflex Pro LRT - White (1/2x3/4) Windows 7 Professional 64bit  
MonitorMonitorMonitorMonitor
Dell P2210Hb 21.5" 1920x1080p Viewsonic VA2012WB 20.1" LCD 1680x1050 Dell U3014 Eizo 27" 1440p 10bit RGB-LED Backlit AH-IPS Panel 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
55" LG HDTV (their top 2014 model) Ducky Mechanical (Browns) NZXT HALE90 850W + 8 blown-up AX1200/i's NZXT Switch 810 (White) 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
R.A.T.3 + MX510 My Desk GRADO RS1i Headphones Grado PS1000 Headphones 
OtherOtherOtherOther
Bitfenix Hydra Pro Fan Controller 5ch 30W/ch Bitfenix Alchemy Individually-Sleeved Extension... NZXT Individually-Sleeved Front Panel Wires (Bl... Phobya Sleeved 1x3pin-to-4x3pin Fan Splitter 
OtherOtherOther
Sleeved Wires w Paracord myself (no Heatshrink) Custom Front and Top Panels w HexxMesh *In Prog... Working on Custom Pedestal Prototype 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7 3930K @ 4.92Ghz Asus Rampage 4 Extreme EVGA GTX670 FTW 2GB  EVGA GTX780Ti Classified K|ngp|n Edition @ 1483... 
GraphicsRAMHard DriveHard Drive
EVGA GTX780Ti Classified K|ngp|n Edition @ 1483... 16GB G.Skill Ripjaws-Z @ DDR3-2248 9-10-9-26 1T Samsung 830 256GB SSD WD10EZEX 1TB HDD 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
WD10EALX 1TB HDD Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 1TB WD3200AAKS 320GB HDD WD5000HHTZ 10krpm 500GB VelociRaptor 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
LG/Hitachi Slim DVD-R/W Custom MB-Backside VRM-sinks (Copper) 3x NZXT RF-FX140LB 1-2krpm 98.3CFM Case Fans 2x Corsair SP120-PE Case Fans 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Heatkiller GTX680 "Hole Edition" Block + Backplate XSPC Single-Bay Res (Single 5.25 bay) EK Multioption Res X2 - Advanced 150 DD "Fill-Port Res" + Fill-Port Fitting (Red) 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
2x MCP35X + Heatsinks/80x15mm Fan XSPC EX420 Alphacool NeXXos UT60 240 6x Bgears Blasters 140mm 1800rpm Fans 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
4x Koolance 120x25mm 2600rpm Fans Comp/Rotary Fittings (BP/XSPC/Monsoon) Primoflex Pro LRT - White (1/2x3/4) Windows 7 Professional 64bit  
MonitorMonitorMonitorMonitor
Dell P2210Hb 21.5" 1920x1080p Viewsonic VA2012WB 20.1" LCD 1680x1050 Dell U3014 Eizo 27" 1440p 10bit RGB-LED Backlit AH-IPS Panel 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
55" LG HDTV (their top 2014 model) Ducky Mechanical (Browns) NZXT HALE90 850W + 8 blown-up AX1200/i's NZXT Switch 810 (White) 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
R.A.T.3 + MX510 My Desk GRADO RS1i Headphones Grado PS1000 Headphones 
OtherOtherOtherOther
Bitfenix Hydra Pro Fan Controller 5ch 30W/ch Bitfenix Alchemy Individually-Sleeved Extension... NZXT Individually-Sleeved Front Panel Wires (Bl... Phobya Sleeved 1x3pin-to-4x3pin Fan Splitter 
OtherOtherOther
Sleeved Wires w Paracord myself (no Heatshrink) Custom Front and Top Panels w HexxMesh *In Prog... Working on Custom Pedestal Prototype 
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post #19 of 21
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Nah I got the 3570k. It's a great performer.
post #20 of 21
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Yes it works great. I do it myself... and have ran up to 9 fans... but it all depends on how strong your motherboard PWM signal is. I have no problems with 7 fans, 8 and 9 fans work but sometime I wondered if they were changing speed like they all should when I changed settings... Sometimes it seemed not all were changing small speed adjustments like 7 or less do, but I'm not positive of this because I don't have enough rpm monitors to watch them all. biggrin.gif Right now I'm only running 5 in my Define R2 case. 3 TY-140 intakes keeps my case cool as a cucumber.
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Awesome. I can't wait
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