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Whether or not being a pure herbivore is 'natural' or intended by most of our physiology, it is possible and has been done throughout history in certain cultures averse to eating meat. It is MUCH easier today with everything we have access to, but in the end... we are omnivores, plain and simple. Our teeth are great for grinding up food and tearing it apart, and fulfill both functions rather well.
This is far from the initial article at hand, which is likely only a part of an issue in their test group, and kind of a moot point.
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Smaller portions would probably be the easiest thing to stick with. Eat whatever it is you're eating now, just don't finish it all like you normally would. I almost hate to use it as an example, but notice there were no heavy people in the concentration camps. If you cut back on the food enough while staying active like you do, you'll lose weight. Just don't go to one meal a day like someone else said. Keep the fire stoked. Eat normally like you already do, just eat less at each meal or snack. If you have to throw a little bit of it away, oh well. It makes no difference really whether or not it comes out your pooper or gets eaten by seagulls at the dump.

I cut back to 2500 callories for a few months, I didn't loose any wieght, I just got tired.
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I cut back to 2500 callories for a few months, I didn't loose any wieght, I just got tired.

Depending on how active you are on a regular basis it might take a while for your body to adjust. Not only that, you have to take in the correct foods to be able to get away with it. If you don't, you get malnourished some how and your body compensates. If you do that and don't get the proper protein intake, your body will digest it's own muscles so that the muscles you do use keep their mass. If you do that, it wouldn't be a surprise that you get fatigue. It's all a balance, without the proper balance you mess up the entire system.

It's not exactly smart to go from a large calorie intake to a lesser one without really reading or looking into it. Your essentially starving yourself when you do that, as your body is used to the original intake.
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Sorry but humans are meat eaters. People who starve themselves live longer as well, but its not healthy to starve oneself, and I don't mean fasting by choice either.
Maybe you should actually look up what depression is before saying stupid things.

What you are saying is .... people who die sooner may be healthier than people who live longer.
That is a very interesting way to describe being healthy.
I always thought death is unhealthy, but maybe I'm misinformed about that.
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What you are saying is .... people who die sooner may be healthier than people who live longer.
That is a very interesting way to describe being healthy.
I always thought death is unhealthy, but maybe I'm misinformed about that.

x2 what is he talking about is trolling?

maybe he is saying that vegetarians are unhealthy because they are too skinny, but his own statement contradicts that.
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fat people tend to be depressed, so no it's not more likely

Can I get the source for that fact?

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Maybe you should actually look up what depression is before saying stupid things.

At least make an effort to understand what he's saying.
Edited by Faraz - 12/26/12 at 4:22pm
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If this thread proves nothing else, it shows there are a lot of heavy people on this forum, or things wouldn't be so emotionally-charged.
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If this thread proves nothing else, it shows there are a lot of heavy people on this forum, or things wouldn't be so emotionally-charged.

'MERICA. haha nah kidding. At this point in time now though.. overweight people are becoming the norm.. and no one is calling them on it. overweight girls especially get told its ok to be big because they are beautiful no matter what.. its kinda frustrating. While i never take away from who the person is because they are overweight. I in no way encourage or lie when asked about their weight or health/food consumption. Even if it makes me a jerk. I know what its like to be fat. not average america fat. but bad for my health and i wont stand by while others make it seem acceptable to the masses. Thats just straight up pisses me off.
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Interesting article, the bacteria may contribute to an individual's weight gain, but how much?
Surely it isn't that much. Living in the US I can tell you people here are not overweight because of bacteria, they're fat from shoveling garbage into their face.
If I see somebody blaming their obesity on bacteria in their gut I might just explode.
I don't have a single problem with any heavy set people, unless they think they aren't the cause of it when they don't have a legitimate reason.
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wow. lot of fat headed people posting on here. rolleyes.gif

The real point to take away from the OP news, imho, is that there is a lot about bacteria that we don't know ... upto the present times, the common mindset in scientific communities, is to KILL ALL BACTERIA !
Think about the overprescription of antibiotics and how that toughens the bacteria. Research is now pointing to a microbiome, similar to the human genome - a mapping is being made of the different bacterium and what they may possibly trigger, whether it be the occurrence of some malady, or the prevention of some malady. The world of bacteria is largely unknown, much like the underseas world.
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