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Oh my, I ment 6' not inches. =O Ops!
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I didn't know that about milk for sure, but had heard that in the past too. Since i can drink milk, and like it enough, i'll try that with my new exercise routine.

http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/news/20100922/milk-drinkers-may-lose-more-weight

Not the same study but good none the less, if your interested I'd read it. It also explains why we now have Vitamin D in milk. Good good overall! They don't get into it in that article but what I was talking about earlier is what some call negative calorie foods. Basically, it takes more to digest than what you get . Unfortunately you have to have skim however this is a nice study that gets into other points about milk being healthy. I would say 2% might add calories to the meal but you get quite a bit out of it, and if you compensate for it their is nothing bad out of it! I drink milk a LOT though, so I can't really justify skim or 2%, for me it's usually whole or nothing. Milk <3
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No I prefer farm grown for a few reasons 1) I can meet the animal and check it's health before harvest 2) I can see the feed conditions and talk with the farmer/hands 3) the farmer knows the process plant thus I can check conditions there 4) I help my local market and have the finest meat for a few more cents per pound than at any store/butcher shop because I cut the middle men out. While I visit I can also purchase the finest dairy products you will ever sink your teeth in as well as drink milk straight from the cow.
Here farmer markets SUCK, 90% are so over priced it isn't worth purchasing ANYTHING from them.

Yeah I can understand that, if you get organic eggs as apposed to non you can REALLY tell the difference. I'm not so sure in taste or actual nutrients but I'm sure some can tell. Just breaking them open however really shows the clarity. Organic eggs are very clear compared to what you would "normally" buy off the shelf. I assume the same happens with beef. I just don't think you require that to be healthy, at least moderately healthy as I'm sure somebody who hand picks like you has a higher chance of good health.

Sad that farmer markets suck around there, we have a lot of good stuff here. I suppose it depends on where you live, makes sense and is unfortunate.
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I think we just need to go back to the diet of what those who had served in WWII were eating. How many of them were huge? None. Course, fast food hadn't been invented yet. So... I think I can see where the line in the sand was drawn. Hence why I try not to eat fast food, and if I do, it's usually QDoba. I haven't ate anything except for one of those little Apple Pies from McDonalds in... wow... 9 years.
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I think we just need to go back to the diet of what those who had served in WWII were eating. How many of them were huge? None. Course, fast food hadn't been invented yet. So... I think I can see where the line in the sand was drawn. Hence why I try not to eat fast food, and if I do, it's usually QDoba. I haven't ate anything except for one of those little Apple Pies from McDonalds in... wow... 9 years.

really cant compare the times in WWII to now... We have an abundance of food available to us now compared to what most people had back then...
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I am glad none of you are my doctors lol
I am one of those cases that the "norm" for losing weight doesn't apply.

I must agree that Americans, eat horrible, empty foods. As for those going on and on about exercise, it just isn't that simple. As someone said before you must ask your doctor is exercise is right for you. You could end up doing way more harm then good if your body isn't ready to do such activity.
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Thats why i'm eating healthier and starting wuth daily cycling/some weights at the gym. Some lliptical work too. I could stand to lose ~40-50 probably, but running just kills my ankles right now frown.gif too heavy i think.

I think being 'bigger' also has hurt my immune system as i've been more sick in the past 1.5 years than most of my life. I used to never get sick frown.giffrown.gif . Ther is a lot to it all though, and doing just one thing isn't enough to get anyone in shape from a bad spot.

For example, I lead a low activity lifestyle and have a desk job. I've also been heavy for a few years now. I'll need to keep my healthier diet and start working out almost daily to see any real change in coming months.

Due to broken hand, my upper body work is limited though frown.gif but i can still do lower body machines/bike/ellipctical smile.gif Too many people, myself included, get discouraged at not seeing immediate results in a week or two. It's hard to make such a large adjustment to daily exercise... especially for a gamer with a full time job tongue.gif lol. But, due to broken hand in my case, no gaming anyways, so why not work out biggrin.gif

People DO need support though, and a lot of what i see in here and everywhere is a complete lack of that. It's sad really.
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I am glad none of you are my doctors lol
I am one of those cases that the "norm" for losing weight doesn't apply.
I must agree that Americans, eat horrible, empty foods. As for those going on and on about exercise, it just isn't that simple. As someone said before you must ask your doctor is exercise is right for you. You could end up doing way more harm then good if your body isn't ready to do such activity.

What is considered the "norm" for losing weight? I'm intrigued. Also, why does it not work for you?
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http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/news/20100922/milk-drinkers-may-lose-more-weight
Not the same study but good none the less, if your interested I'd read it. It also explains why we now have Vitamin D in milk. Good good overall! They don't get into it in that article but what I was talking about earlier is what some call negative calorie foods. Basically, it takes more to digest than what you get . Unfortunately you have to have skim however this is a nice study that gets into other points about milk being healthy. I would say 2% might add calories to the meal but you get quite a bit out of it, and if you compensate for it their is nothing bad out of it! I drink milk a LOT though, so I can't really justify skim or 2%, for me it's usually whole or nothing. Milk <3

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/dairy-free-dairy-6-reason_b_558876.html

http://saveourbones.com/osteoporosis-milk-myth/

Just a thought here, I don't have much time to look up the source I really wanted to find, I've got it somewhere on my computer at home. But the more I've read about milk, the less I believe it's really necessary or even healthy for us to drink. I'm no nutritionist, but personally I've given up drinking milk (and other food and drink) and instead take supplements to complement my diet.
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I am glad none of you are my doctors lol
I am one of those cases that the "norm" for losing weight doesn't apply.
I must agree that Americans, eat horrible, empty foods. As for those going on and on about exercise, it just isn't that simple. As someone said before you must ask your doctor is exercise is right for you. You could end up doing way more harm then good if your body isn't ready to do such activity.

Pretty sure the "norm" for losing weight is eating right and exercise. As a matter of fact, I've never met a single person that couldn't lose weight with the proper diet and exercise. Granted, not everyone's diet is the same, but if you want to become healthier you need to eat correctly and exercise. So I don't think it's the "norm" for losing weight, I think diet and exercise are the only ways to lose weight.

Also, I hate this notion that people throw around that "all" Americans are fat and lazy slobs, and we all eat horrible/empty foods. I mean, sure we have fat people, but show me a country that doesn't have fat people. Do we have more than most, I suppose it's possible. I don't really read up on nutrition statistics throughout the world. But sweeping generalizations about nations is really annoying, I don't understand why people feel the need to throw everyone into the same category.
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Thats why i'm eating healthier and starting wuth daily cycling/some weights at the gym. Some lliptical work too. I could stand to lose ~40-50 probably, but running just kills my ankles right now frown.gif too heavy i think.
I think being 'bigger' also has hurt my immune system as i've been more sick in the past 1.5 years than most of my life. I used to never get sick frown.giffrown.gif . Ther is a lot to it all though, and doing just one thing isn't enough to get anyone in shape from a bad spot.
For example, I lead a low activity lifestyle and have a desk job. I've also been heavy for a few years now. I'll need to keep my healthier diet and start working out almost daily to see any real change in coming months.
Due to broken hand, my upper body work is limited though frown.gif but i can still do lower body machines/bike/ellipctical smile.gif Too many people, myself included, get discouraged at not seeing immediate results in a week or two. It's hard to make such a large adjustment to daily exercise... especially for a gamer with a full time job tongue.gif lol. But, due to broken hand in my case, no gaming anyways, so why not work out biggrin.gif
People DO need support though, and a lot of what i see in here and everywhere is a complete lack of that. It's sad really.

Something to think about with running. When I first started running my knees and ankles were killing me, and I couldn't figure out why. I wasn't terribly heavy, certainly not enough for the weight alone to be causing me this much pain. I went to a running store that was recommended to me by a friend, and found out that I pronate when I run. I dropped some money on some running shoes designed to be tight and for pronating people, and it was a world of difference. Literally, I was simply astounded at the difference between the two pairs of shoes. So I would go to a dedicated running store and hop on their treadmill, and see what they think. I realize that your results might be different than mine, but I think it's worth a shot. I was on the treadmill for about 2 minutes, just walking, and they knew what I needed. They had a good price selection, I started off with cheaper (~$60USD) but when I found out how well they worked I started buying more expensive shoes that were even better.

Also, something to think about for upper body strength, is to attach weights to your arms while on the elliptical machine. Even placing 5 or 10 pound weight bracelets on your arms can make a significant difference. You won't get massive arm strength, but it can help to lose some weight off your arms and/or trim them up. I'm not sure how much mobility you've lost due to the broken hand, but if you put the weights on your arms you don't have to grip anything really, just rest your hand on the machine. I've never done it, but had a friend that used this technique for a bit and said it helped keep his arm strength up. Just something to think about, and hopefully it helps/works for you.

Another thing to keep in mind, if you're really interested in losing weight, but can't do much running and upper body lifting due to your hand, is to find a place with a pool. Swimming is, from what I've read and heard anyway, to be one of the absolute best all-around full-body workouts you can get. I've never taken swimming lessons, so I can't speak to this from any practical experience, but that's always been my understanding that swimming is a great way to shed fat/build muscle/improve cardio. GL to you thumb.gif
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Wish I could swim... but half-cast can't get wet frown.gif

Lots of good pts, and i've looked into lots of them, but too broke atm to follow up with many. I do need better shoes for sure. I've been running in Skele-toes, which are ok, but my feet rock when i run and give me shin splints. SUCKED in the Army, and i had to run through it... but they went away eventually.

I plan on swimming with my wife once i can (cast still... ), but for now it'll be good to just do anything lol. I'll probably lose the first 20 easy, then work for the rest.
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I can see where it may contribute, but that is far from conclusive that it is the cause of obesity.

But the article never said it is the cause of obesity. It says it may contribute to it.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/dairy-free-dairy-6-reason_b_558876.html
http://saveourbones.com/osteoporosis-milk-myth/
Just a thought here, I don't have much time to look up the source I really wanted to find, I've got it somewhere on my computer at home. But the more I've read about milk, the less I believe it's really necessary or even healthy for us to drink. I'm no nutritionist, but personally I've given up drinking milk (and other food and drink) and instead take supplements to complement my diet.
Pretty sure the "norm" for losing weight is eating right and exercise. As a matter of fact, I've never met a single person that couldn't lose weight with the proper diet and exercise. Granted, not everyone's diet is the same, but if you want to become healthier you need to eat correctly and exercise. So I don't think it's the "norm" for losing weight, I think diet and exercise are the only ways to lose weight.
Also, I hate this notion that people throw around that "all" Americans are fat and lazy slobs, and we all eat horrible/empty foods. I mean, sure we have fat people, but show me a country that doesn't have fat people. Do we have more than most, I suppose it's possible. I don't really read up on nutrition statistics throughout the world. But sweeping generalizations about nations is really annoying, I don't understand why people feel the need to throw everyone into the same category.
Something to think about with running. When I first started running my knees and ankles were killing me, and I couldn't figure out why. I wasn't terribly heavy, certainly not enough for the weight alone to be causing me this much pain. I went to a running store that was recommended to me by a friend, and found out that I pronate when I run. I dropped some money on some running shoes designed to be tight and for pronating people, and it was a world of difference. Literally, I was simply astounded at the difference between the two pairs of shoes. So I would go to a dedicated running store and hop on their treadmill, and see what they think. I realize that your results might be different than mine, but I think it's worth a shot. I was on the treadmill for about 2 minutes, just walking, and they knew what I needed. They had a good price selection, I started off with cheaper (~$60USD) but when I found out how well they worked I started buying more expensive shoes that were even better.
Also, something to think about for upper body strength, is to attach weights to your arms while on the elliptical machine. Even placing 5 or 10 pound weight bracelets on your arms can make a significant difference. You won't get massive arm strength, but it can help to lose some weight off your arms and/or trim them up. I'm not sure how much mobility you've lost due to the broken hand, but if you put the weights on your arms you don't have to grip anything really, just rest your hand on the machine. I've never done it, but had a friend that used this technique for a bit and said it helped keep his arm strength up. Just something to think about, and hopefully it helps/works for you.
Another thing to keep in mind, if you're really interested in losing weight, but can't do much running and upper body lifting due to your hand, is to find a place with a pool. Swimming is, from what I've read and heard anyway, to be one of the absolute best all-around full-body workouts you can get. I've never taken swimming lessons, so I can't speak to this from any practical experience, but that's always been my understanding that swimming is a great way to shed fat/build muscle/improve cardio. GL to you thumb.gif

YESSSSS! Its so annoying when people post ignorant comments... Not all of America is fat people!
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