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Id Software co-founder John Carmack had speculated on Monday regarding the target frame rates for both Xbox 720 and PS4, and in his estimation, most titles for the next-generation consoles will still have a 30 frames per second (fps) target instead of the 60 most are expecting.

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post #2 of 60
While it's only his opinion, I'm pretty sure he has a both next gen dev boxes in his studio. This would make his opinion fairly reliable.
post #3 of 60
Depending on the hardware they put in them, if they want fullHD, and much better graphics, I wouldn't even be surprised if I saw 30fps as the norm.

I think we all know that sony and MS don't want to make a loss selling these things, and that they can't use high end hardware because of high TDPs.
 
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This is quite sad. 6 years late and they can't even boost the FPS to 40 or even 50 at say 720p. Why bother releasing new consoles then?
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30 fps is acceptable to me, if coupled with no stuttering, possible huge levels, better FOV etc.

Current gen consoles can't deliver that, so I see that as improvement.
    
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Depending on the hardware they put in them, if they want fullHD, and much better graphics, I wouldn't even be surprised if I saw 30fps as the norm.
I think we all know that sony and MS don't want to make a loss selling these things, and that they can't use high end hardware because of high TDPs.
Yeah, I wouldn't really be surprised, but I would be a bit disappointed. There were rumors that the next Xbox would have an Intel quad core, 4-8GB RAM and a GPU with 2GB VRAM floating around a few weeks ago. This sounds more like they're going the APU route.

If it's true, people hoping next gen consoles would really push the industry forward (and stop holding PC titles back) are going to be in for a lot of disappointment. frown.gif
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The new consoles will be powerful enough to run the current gen games at 60FPS (assuming they are backwards compatible), but not the next gen games.
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I wonder what impact this will have on 3d games if this is true. 30 fps in each eye would mean it would have to put out 60fps
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Not really surprising, as the vast majority of console gamers don't notice the difference or aren't bothered by 30fps.
Personally I don't mind it either for a lot of games on console, as long as it feels fluid enough. People are likely to notice the increased graphical fidelity more than an increased refresh rate.
If you've only played 30fps games for most of your gaming life, it won't bother you if there's no change
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console gamers don't know crap about fps, they just put disk then play COD or halo

that is all that matters
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