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Grado Labs SR80i: http://www.gradolabs.com/page_headphones.php?item=ec27f1750be96023333af0dfe546af44
Probably better sounding than everything in that article.

Um... No.
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Um... No.

In terms of accuracy he's right. The Grados are ruthlessly revealing and make amazing headphones for pure reproduction purposes, though I imagine people would in general be happier with executive Beats as they're more musical.

That said, the Grado SR range are one of the most uncomfortable headphones I have ever used. So you do pay for it.
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LMAO now we all need $500 + headphones for gaming.

Any decent headset will be fine with a decent sound card.Crank the volume up and if you you can hear foot steps coming and avoid getting flanked then you are good to go.

I would never use a street style pair of headphones to game but all these claims that popular branded gaming headphones are garbage is ridiculous.

I cant even utilize my sound card for my gaming headset since its wireless and guess what it doesn't matter -

Exceptional looks and build quality,great mic performance,50MM drivers so i will hear EVERYTHING and i will never need nothing more.



Do i seriously think a $500 pair of Sennheiser headphones would make a difference when i am playing CSS i doubt it but in a professional studio session yes.
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LMAO now we all need $500 + headphones for gaming.
Any decent headset will be fine with a decent sound card.Crank the volume up and if you you can hear foot steps coming and avoid getting flanked then you are good to go.

Some people don't want to have to crank the volume up to hear every detail. I have very sensitive hearing and a good audio setup will allow every detail to come through at even the lowest volume levels. We're not all constantly in party-mode. Even when I have my hi-fi on quietly it's nice to listen to, of course it's better louder, but a staplemark of a good system is that they are very detailed when very quiet. Traits usually typical with electrostatic drive units, which are renowned for being incredible.

Recommending a sound card is actually a bad idea since a lot of headsets now are USB. The only good point of a sound card is the DAC in it, if you use USB, your DAC is generally in the headphone, meaning you're not using the sound card at all unless it acts as an anti-jitter device, which will undoubtedly be screwed up by the terrible DAC in the headphones anyway.
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I would never use a street style pair of headphones to game but all these claims that popular branded gaming headphones are garbage is ridiculous.

It's really not. Listen to Sennheiser HD25s then listen to a Razer Tiamat 2.2 or 7.1. The difference in the quality is astounding, especially when the Sennheisers are two thirds the price of the Tiamat. This applies to almost every headset out there. They are built to a budget and marketed to gamers as "high quality ultra gaming increase ur kills and frame rates pr0". They are garbage. Although some of the very cheap ones (Creative Fatal1ty (non usb)) are good value for money, they are by no means 'good' in an outright sense.
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Exceptional looks and build quality,great mic performance,50MM drivers so i will hear EVERYTHING and i will never need nothing more.

Those do not look exceptional, at all. They look like something that would come in the box with "my first gaming pc" along with a 3-pack of blue-LED fans.

50mm drivers mean nothing. Shure IEMS have drivers that are about 9mm and they are some of the best audio reproduction devices ever made. Big drive units mean absolutely nothing, if you want an economic proof of that, look at the history of the loudspeaker company Mission.

The only reason you will "never need nothing more" is that you haven't experienced it. Nobody wanted an iPod touch till they used it and thought "Wow, this is actually really cool!". Nobody wanted an iPad when they were first announced either... They're doing well from what I hear.
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Do i seriously think a $500 pair of Sennheiser headphones would make a difference when i am playing CSS i doubt it but in a professional studio session yes.

You would notice the difference in a blind test, for sure. Everything is far more delicate and detailed on good headphones. It's hard to explain to somebody, but you know sometimes you're taken by surprise "Huh, didn't hear him...". That will happen far less. It's easy to hear footsteps when you listen for them, but on good headphones that kind of thing is like peripheral vision.
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Your point is taken but they perform exceptional well so i will leave it at that.

All that technical stuff might sound good to some people but it doesn't impress me. It's simply not needed for gaming today with so many company's putting out quality products.

And no this headset didn't come with led fans lol

To many audiophile fanboys here who think a pair of Sennheiser's are the end all when any $75 + gaming headset is more then enough.

When the day comes when i can no longer get a frag because i am not using Sennheiser headphones i will PM you.
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Your point is taken but they perform exceptional well so i will leave it at that.
All that technical stuff might sound good to some people but it doesn't impress me. It's simply not needed for gaming today with so many company's putting out quality products.
And no this headset didn't come with led fans lol
To many audiophile fanboys here who think a pair of Sennheiser's are the end all when any $75 + gaming headset is more then enough.
When the day comes when i can no longer get a frag because i am not using Sennheiser headphones i will PM you.

You don't get it. The point is that they don't perform exceptionally well, they are simply as good as your average £30 headphones from the local supermarket. The products aren't high quality, they're just marketed as such.

It's enough to hear what you're doing, but a £10 gaming headset is too. It's all about how much you want to hear and how much quality you want. You'll happily spend thousands of dollars on making an awesome PC so that you can see a game as good as possible, why not spend merely a few hundred dollars on hearing it really well too? I play all my games in 5760x1080 on the highest settings, that was a rig that cost what, $4500? I'm happy to spend another $1500 to have the audio performance match the visual performance.
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In terms of accuracy he's right. The Grados are ruthlessly revealing and make amazing headphones for pure reproduction purposes, though I imagine people would in general be happier with executive Beats as they're more musical.
That said, the Grado SR range are one of the most uncomfortable headphones I have ever used. So you do pay for it.

Grados sound great for music, but they roll off too much at the bottom end and lack any deep bass. They'll work great for hearing footsteps and all that, but I like my explosions to really go boom.

Actually scratch that, I like my explosions to rattle my room to pieces which is why I usually stick with speakers and a big sub.
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Grados sound great for music, but they roll off too much at the bottom end and lack any deep bass. They'll work great for hearing footsteps and all that, but I like my explosions to really go boom.
Actually scratch that, I like my explosions to rattle my room to pieces which is why I usually stick with speakers and a big sub.

Explosions generally don't actually sound like that though. The grenade sounds in Crysis 1 for example are what you would expect, which come through just fine on Grados.

Saying a headphone is good for music but not good for gaming doesn't make sense. Good sounding headphones sound good, period. Whether you wish to ruin that accuracy with a frequency imbalance is your choice, don't make out that you preferring one tonality makes another product bad (not necessarily directing that at you, it just highlighted the tone of the thread so far).

I know what you mean about the Sub though, I used to have a REL Storm 3. Fun to listen to but it was just too out of reality for me biggrin.gif.
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You don't get it. The point is that they don't perform exceptionally well, they are simply as good as your average £30 headphones from the local supermarket. The products aren't high quality, they're just marketed as such.
It's enough to hear what you're doing, but a £10 gaming headset is too. It's all about how much you want to hear and how much quality you want. You'll happily spend thousands of dollars on making an awesome PC so that you can see a game as good as possible, why not spend merely a few hundred dollars on hearing it really well too? I play all my games in 5760x1080 on the highest settings, that was a rig that cost what, $4500? I'm happy to spend another $1500 to have the audio performance match the visual performance.

My rig cost the same if not more then yours and i am all about using the best stuff because i can afford to do so, but there is no way these are equivalent to a pair of supermarket headphones lol

I am a fan of Corsair stuff i will admit and i wouldn't have bought this headset if i didn't feel it was offering performance above average stuff.

You have prob been using studio quality stuff for so long your just stuck in that mind set and that's normal.I've had Sennheiser,Bose etc in the past and i am more then content with what i have now.

If i decide to start making beats or need to listen to music in its fullest capacity then i will purchase another set of top end STUDIO headphones.
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