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If boards ever lose external VRM's, I want them to fill that gap with something that's actually useful. I want IB-E to have memory slots surrounding the socket on all four sides biggrin.gif
Seriously though, I love technology, but am still ticked at the sheer amount of programming that's already ancient; as in, single-threaded. I want, and have always wanted, a super-fast unlocked i3 with HT. Everyone here has. But that little thing called "the market isn't big enough" and "it will steal sales away from i5 models" gets in the way. Give me my 6Ghz i3. Now.
Tired frown.gif

Market segmentation and push to earn more profits.
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post #42 of 163
Mobo's don't lose VRM... they lose VRM control. Power phases are still on boards... just Intel moved the control IC into the CPU.
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I wan't to be happy about this, but I am afraid that it will be used by intel to ensure any overclocking is within a set range for each CPU, so that people are forced to buy more expensive CPUs to reach the higher OC speeds frown.gif
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Secret Weapon against who?
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Secret Weapon against who?

Motherboard manufacturers.
   
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I guess I'm the only one who, as an overclocker, is slightly concerned that this will actually be a negative thing ... just like voltage limiting on the nVidia 6xx series cards. Sure you can overclock them ... to a point (and usually at a lower performance than their predecessor) ... but with Intel controlling exactly how much voltage can get to the chip and not a 3rd party board manufacturer like Asus or Gigabyte, they can effectively limit how much of an overclock that you can have. Coupled with the fact that I don't think that Intel is stupid enough to just come out with 1 speed Haswell and let everyone overclock it to what ever they want, they will most likely have various arbitrary limits on overclocking that now THEY can control so that the notion of buying a cheap 2500K chip and overclocking it from 3.3 GHz all the way up to 5.0GHz will be a thing of the past. The more control that Intel has, the more they can control their "price points" for various chips.

Just my 2 cents.
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anyone who has read anything about supercomputer knows that it's a lie. most HPC machines now use GPUs
Note, the author said "graphics".


Besides, most HPC system don't use GPUs. Many of the newest ones do GPGPU on GPU-derived cards but they technically aren't GPUs since there's no video out.



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I guess I'm the only one who, as an overclocker, is slightly concerned that this will actually be a negative thing ...

It will. Say goodbye to your overclocks.

First they locked down bclk. Then multiplier. And next comes the power delivery.

I see where is this all leading to.
   
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post #49 of 163
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This new VRM stuff will allow Intel to do only one thing properly , to CONTROL the market segments.
We can all say bye overclocking for the cheaper chips as this new VRM will come along the socketless strategy.
Boys with money will get their hands on specific chip ranges while the other ones will use the integrated approach.
The future will show us how Intel will make even more money out of their fans.
Of course the VRM integration into the chip will limit the overclocking at least with the first generation.
Those internal thermal/current protections will kick in and limit overclocking in quite a large margin.

I don't care about overclocking. I just want a fast, low power consumption processor that can run games at my desired framerate.

post #50 of 163
just like the Ivy bridge delliding phenomena i have a strange feeling that we enthusiasts would find a way to crank more GHz no matter ho locked the chips are. (some-kind of voltage mod maybe, or a sort of a way around with the correct MoBo or something)

but other than that, intel are slowly pushing the OC crowed out or at least crippling it's abilities to spend more on a proce$$or .
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