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Do you really want me to prove I've got easy access to both an i5 3570k and my FX-4170? Naturally, even if I have a video of both rigs running side by side with the same GPU, you'd still deny it I bet, or claim that the Intel rig was running a worse GPU. That's why I laugh when I see people saying that Intel is so much faster for gaming, yes they are faster but not by as much as is suggested in reviews, I know, I've gamed on both extensively.

You shouldn't be testing the 3570K vs the FX-4170 (Or any bulldozer for that matter) You should be testing the FX-8350 against the 3570K since they're in the same price/performance range. Luckily for you that's already been done by two members of this forum...What do the results show? EXTREMELY minimal differences @ 1920 x 1080. If you where to step up to 2560 X 1440/1600 the gap would close EVEN MORE because then the games become extremely GPU dependent.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1333027/amd-fx-8350-vs-i5-3570k-delidded-single-gpu-and-crossfire-gpu


Unfortunately the large amount of trolls caused the OP to lock the thread down.
Edited by M3T4LM4N222 - 12/29/12 at 12:37am
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I wonder of this means that gigabyte will give 8 core vishera support to my motherboard as currently it will only accept the 6300 and 4300 as they have a lower tdp. A 95w 8 core vishera really gives them no excuses to not support the 8300

Its funny though because my board does support the 8 core power sucking bulldozers.
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Do you really want me to prove I've got easy access to both an i5 3570k and my FX-4170? Naturally, even if I have a video of both rigs running side by side with the same GPU, you'd still deny it I bet, or claim that the Intel rig was running a worse GPU. That's why I laugh when I see people saying that Intel is so much faster for gaming, yes they are faster but not by as much as is suggested in reviews, I know, I've gamed on both extensively.

You shouldn't be testing the 3570K vs the FX-4170 (Or any bulldozer for that matter) You should be testing the FX-8350 against the 3570K since they're in the same price/performance range. Luckily for you that's already been done by two members of this forum...What do the results show? EXTREMELY minimal differences @ 1920 x 1080. If you where to step up to 2560 X 1440/1600 the gap would close EVEN MORE because then the games become extremely GPU dependent.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1333027/amd-fx-8350-vs-i5-3570k-delidded-single-gpu-and-crossfire-gpu


Unfortunately the large amount of trolls caused the OP to lock the thread down.

My FX-4170 is definitely slower than an FX-8350 though, and if I can't see a difference between it and an i5-3570k then you sure as hell won't on an FX-8350.
    
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My FX-4170 is definitely slower than an FX-8350 though, and if I can't see a difference between it and an i5-3570k then you sure as hell won't on an FX-8350.
The 4170 is even slower than the 4300 tongue.gif
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May i remind you that the thread is about a CPU that has not been yet tested and that the topic is not related to it s performance smile.gif
The thread is going sideways .
   
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So, from reading through the comments I can conclude that the problem with AMD's bulldozer+ modules are... the modules ? The concept of sharing stuff on the chip doesn't work as expected or did I get it wrong ?
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May i remind you that the thread is about a CPU that has not been yet tested and that the topic is not related to it s performance smile.gif
The thread is going sideways .

Well it's an AMD thread, so yeah. These past 4 years or so, every AMD cpu thread went sideways quickly. tongue.gif
Edited by MoGTy - 12/29/12 at 4:13am
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So, from reading through the comments I can conclude that the problem with AMD's bulldozer+ modules are... the modules ? The concept of sharing stuff on the chip doesn't work as expected or did I get it wrong ?
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May i remind you that the thread is about a CPU that has not been yet tested and that the topic is not related to it s performance smile.gif
The thread is going sideways .

Well it's an AMD thread, so yeah. These past 4 years or so, every AMD cpu thread went sideways quickly. tongue.gif

That depends on who you decide to listen to.
Personally, I rather like mine and it is performing just fine:
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May i remind you that the thread is about a CPU that has not been yet tested and that the topic is not related to it s performance smile.gif
The thread is going sideways .

FX-8350 and FX-8320.
Underclock them.
Instant FX-8300 results.
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So, from reading through the comments I can conclude that the problem with AMD's bulldozer+ modules are... the modules ? The concept of sharing stuff on the chip doesn't work as expected or did I get it wrong ?

Nah, it's the shared decoders, they limit single threaded performance because while they're faster in a single-thread to decoder situation compared to Phenom II, they're slower when you have two cores per decoder such as normal in Bulldozer. More details here.

The 30% performance improvement is most likely maximum, with (IMO) 15%-20% average being more likely IMO, but that should leave AMD in a similar position against Haswell, as long as they get product out before Broadwell I can see PD systems being great budget ones/systems that run great for people who do stuff other than gaming much like PD is vs IVB.
Edited by Brutuz - 12/29/12 at 5:47am
    
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Why is this retired staff comparing intel quad cores to 4ghz stock octo cores on power draw?thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif

Shhh don't confuse the trolls with logic. tongue.gif
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Yes ,but you see ,on this planet there are also other countries, non-USA ones where the wonder store microcenter does not exist.
So ,you see ,when in my country the better Intel chip costs 30% more , guess what i am buying smile.gif
it cost 30% more ... but we're talking about what... 20$ ?! rolleyes.gif
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