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I still havent seen a realtemp screen shot of this? the heat that 1.5V gives off is crazy, and coretemp is screwy. at 4.6ghz and 1.28V, 24/7 temps around 58-60*C
I think that a lot of people are spreading around false readings with this chip... people need to second guess their temps more when they are to good to be true instead of just posting them lol
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5.2ghz 2700k On Air

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H100 Coming friday.. 5ghz 24/7 in my goal
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Also heard that overclock ability with the ivy bridge is no different with the sandy bridge, but ivy bridge offers better performance for the same frequency on a sandy bridge.....how does this explain itself?
EDIT: Also just found this pic of a 2600k oc'd to 5.4ghz with 1.584v.....that can't be possible

It can, my 2600k did more than that at the same voltage
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5.2ghz 2700k On Air
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Man those sandy bridge cpu's don't require as much voltage like the ivy's....nice oc you got there mate thumb.gif
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That was a software OC from 4.8ghz in bios to 5.2ghz.. snapped a quick validation...

Temps are pretty ****, so wont risk it past 1.44v on air..

Getting h100 Friday P/P Config.. Hoping for 5ghz under 1.5ghz
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I hit 4.7Ghz@1.33V and 1 hour prime stable on Non-delid, but for the life of me 4.8, 4.9 or 5.0 was not stable at all. Did the delid with Cool-lab ultra on the die and temps dropped 22C.
Now I am at 5.0Ghz 1 hour prime stable. thumb.gif

Deliding opens up so many doors biggrin.gif
Edited by Cool Mike - 1/2/13 at 5:57pm
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Also heard that overclock ability with the ivy bridge is no different with the sandy bridge, but ivy bridge offers better performance for the same frequency on a sandy bridge.....how does this explain itself?
EDIT: Also just found this pic of a 2600k oc'd to 5.4ghz with 1.584v.....that can't be possible

Okay I'll try and explain what it means...
A 2500k and a 3570k both at 4.5GHz, the 3570k will win by a small margin (>10%).
The 2500k at 4.9GHz and a 3570k at 4.7GHz remove that margin and they're about the same.
In general the 2500k can clock higher due to being soldered, so that generally makes up for the 10% difference.
The 2500k/2600k weren't binned as far as I know or at least the process wasn't as noticeable, I still think to this day that the 2700k was though because we see better overclocks on average with them.
The 3570k/3770k are binned (at least it's more noticeable) and this means that a 3570k on average needs more voltage then a 3770k for the same clocks.
The Sandy Bridge is 32nm which has been done before Sandy Bridge so technically its a revision of 32nm, Ivy Bridge is a new 22nm technology so extrapolating (from previous gen/Intels legit information) we can say that Haswell will be a refresh on 22nm but better designed (more efficient and faster of course).

You've got to remember the main thing with Ivy Bridge is the thermal pasted IHS that makes the CPU's unable to run much past 1.3v generally (mine spiked at around 1.33v) until you de-lid it. Doing so limits overclocks done by most people and makes the soldered i7 3820/3930 more of an option for enthusiasts. I personally think Intel has done this just to sell more of their enthusiast line as I remember people were buying 2600k's over a 980x for almost a third of the price simply because it was almost as good and cheaper. Thats also partially why Intel has binned the i7 3770k better, so the enthusiasts don't "Just settle" for an i5 3570k, so they give Intel another $110 or whatever the difference is for nothing (The i7 costs little-no more to make).

Intel are being smart and going against overclockers, I don't like it.

EDIT: You also need to remember the amount of Golden Sandy Bridges out there is bigger because 32nm was more refined AND it's been produced for longer, I.E 2500k's were produced for over 12 months whereas a 3570k has only been produced for a little over 10 (from what I remember?) People are also scared of the "heat problem" and don't overclock as much also. Another factor is that people need to de-lid to get these crazy clocks which not many people do, so if X person gets a "Golden chip" that can do 5.6GHz at 1.4v they don't de-lid it in fear of breaking it or don't even know that you can de-lid it. I bet you a million dollars that there is the case of that someone has an amazing chip and they just don't know about the de-lidding process or don't want to risk it.
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I hit 4.7Ghz@1.33V and 1 hour prime stable on Non-delid, but for the life of me 4.8, 4.9 or 5.0 was not stable at all. Did the delid with Cool-lab ultra on the die and temps dropped 22C.
Now I am at 5.0Ghz 1 hour prime stable. thumb.gif
Deliding opens up so many doors biggrin.gif
Might delid mine sometime in the future with the cool-lab liquid metal solution on the die, 22C is a huge drop of temps indeed.....
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Might delid mine sometime in the future with the cool-lab liquid metal solution on the die, 22C is a huge drop of temps indeed.....

Mine was at least 25c, I couldn't check because I came across a few problems.. I fixed it though, but by the time I did the ambients were too different.
I went from maxing at 4.4GHz @ 1.35v or so which would hit 85-90c with IBT. To 4.6GHz at 1.45v which hits a max of ~70-75c.

Like I said, I cant directly compare. But it's still worth it I think. If you do be sure to practice on a few old P4's/Celerons/Core 2 Duos if you need to. They're slightly different but its a good approach at practicing. I did four before mine and I only feel that I would have destroyed one (I was trying to get the glue off with the blade)
 
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Okay I'll try and explain what it means...
A 2500k and a 3570k both at 4.5GHz, the 3570k will win by a small margin (>10%).
The 2500k at 4.9GHz and a 3570k at 4.7GHz remove that margin and they're about the same.
In general the 2500k can clock higher due to being soldered, so that generally makes up for the 10% difference.
The 2500k/2600k weren't binned as far as I know or at least the process wasn't as noticeable, I still think to this day that the 2700k was though because we see better overclocks on average with them.
The 3570k/3770k are binned (at least it's more noticeable) and this means that a 3570k on average needs more voltage then a 3770k for the same clocks.
The Sandy Bridge is 32nm which has been done before Sandy Bridge so technically its a revision of 32nm, Ivy Bridge is a new 22nm technology so extrapolating (from previous gen/Intels legit information) we can say that Haswell will be a refresh on 22nm but better designed (more efficient and faster of course).
You've got to remember the main thing with Ivy Bridge is the thermal pasted IHS that makes the CPU's unable to run much past 1.3v generally (mine spiked at around 1.33v) until you de-lid it. Doing so limits overclocks done by most people and makes the soldered i7 3820/3930 more of an option for enthusiasts. I personally think Intel has done this just to sell more of their enthusiast line as I remember people were buying 2600k's over a 980x for almost a third of the price simply because it was almost as good and cheaper. Thats also partially why Intel has binned the i7 3770k better, so the enthusiasts don't "Just settle" for an i5 3570k, so they give Intel another $110 or whatever the difference is for nothing (The i7 costs little-no more to make).
Intel are being smart and going against overclockers, I don't like it.
EDIT: You also need to remember the amount of Golden Sandy Bridges out there is bigger because 32nm was more refined AND it's been produced for longer, I.E 2500k's were produced for over 12 months whereas a 3570k has only been produced for a little over 10 (from what I remember?) People are also scared of the "heat problem" and don't overclock as much also. Another factor is that people need to de-lid to get these crazy clocks which not many people do, so if X person gets a "Golden chip" that can do 5.6GHz at 1.4v they don't de-lid it in fear of breaking it or don't even know that you can de-lid it. I bet you a million dollars that there is the case of that someone has an amazing chip and they just don't know about the de-lidding process or don't want to risk it.

lol it's such a shame that the "X" person with the golden chip probably exists......and that person isn't me frown.gif ....... (yet)
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