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post #101 of 145
Oh the test doesn't fit your preconceived notions so its "not quite an accurate test" eh? How is it fair that the D14 gets to have larger, quieter fans in a head to head comparison? you're the one that said it wasn't fair to give the H100 a speed advantage but its OK to give the D14 a size advantage??? rolleyes.gif
post #102 of 145
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Oh the test doesn't fit your preconceived notions so its "not quite an accurate test" eh? How is it fair that the D14 gets to have larger, quieter fans in a head to head comparison? you're the one that said it wasn't fair to give the H100 a speed advantage but its OK to give the D14 a size advantage??? rolleyes.gif

that's like saying that the X60 shouldn't get a bigger set of fans. Or that a custom watercooling loop shouldn't get more than two 120mm fans. The coolers fitting a bigger set of fans is a good thing so it should be taken advantage of. Since the H100 can't it's a con for the cooler. They should however be as loud (not as fast really, unless we're talking about the same set of fans).

Using smaller fans doesn't represent the full cooling capability of the cooler.

I wasn't saying that the 'review' doesn't fit my preconceptions. I was saying why it was flawed.
 
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post #103 of 145
So you really think adding a single 140mm fan (or just 20mm more fan size) will overcome a 5C gap do you? Lol...

What about adding two extra fans for the H100i? It can accomodate them... rolleyes.gif
post #104 of 145
I'm not saying it will even change the results, I'm just saying that because of that and some other inconsistencies the 'review' isn't valid and I won't seriously consider the results beyond them just giving a general idea.

5C isn't much in a review that as even Linus himself said "isn't quite super scientific". The differences might even wary quite a bit seeing that he didn't even mount the coolers more than once.
 
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post #105 of 145
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I've used a lot of coolers over the years and my personal experience with the nh-d14 is bad period. dun care about reviews. maybe there was something wrong with the mount but I don't care don't even tell me I didn't apply the tim properly. I've reseated that thing god knows how many times coz I couldn't believe the temps I was getting. I've used it with two setups (x58 and my current setup) and temps were still not impressive. again I'm not saying temps were horrible. It was very underwhelming given the size of the thing

With my experience in the Philippines, any air cooler would not perform very well.

My x58 setup at 4.2ghz hit around 85-90C with my d14 when I lived in Cebu.

Here stateside, I hit 70C max on a nice Spring day.
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I'm not saying it will even change the results, I'm just saying that because of that and some other inconsistencies the 'review' isn't valid and I won't seriously consider the results beyond them just giving a general idea.
5C isn't much in a review that as even Linus himself said "isn't quite super scientific". The differences might even wary quite a bit seeing that he didn't even mount the coolers more than once.

Hey, you posted a review and so did I. What conclusions can you draw from that? Well, ultimately those who prefer the tidiness of a CLC will go for an H100 and those who are looking for ultimate value will go for a large air cooler. Simple...
post #107 of 145
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Oh the test doesn't fit your preconceived notions so its "not quite an accurate test" eh? How is it fair that the D14 gets to have larger, quieter fans in a head to head comparison? you're the one that said it wasn't fair to give the H100 a speed advantage but its OK to give the D14 a size advantage??? rolleyes.gif
So basically, you're saying that the extra 20mm on the fan will drive me insane, just like the 2700RPM Corsair stock fans? Because that is the reason that every cooler should have fans of the same noise level. It won't make 5 degrees of a difference, but the difference between an NF-F12 and an NF-A15 on a silver arrow or a D14 will be noticeable.
post #108 of 145
I'm the last to judge on noise levels. I run all 8 of my NB PL2's on max in my sig rig. Don't really mind fan noise in exchange for temps but that's just me...
post #109 of 145
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I'm the last to judge on noise levels. I run all 8 of my NB PL2's on max in my sig rig. Don't really mind fan noise in exchange for temps but that's just me...
I don't really mind all that much either, but I'm not going to run 2700RPM fans on max. I run my NF-F12s on full at load, but it's not like I am going to go back to having to run my GTX 480 stock cooler at >85% at load to keep the temperatures reasonable.
post #110 of 145
I don't personally care about fan noise either, I have a compressor next to my rig and I used to run 5400rpm gentle typhoons tongue.gif

Similar fan noise is essential for a fair test though.
 
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