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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

Seems to me the H100i handily beat the D14 in temps. It also beats it in looks, ease of installation, convenience, portability, and warranty (try getting your mobo replaced if the D14 cracks it). Not sure if conclusion is serious?

When it comes to pure CPU Cooling it does. I think the source was trying to say the NH-D14 can cool competitively but also cool the rest of the components better than the others.
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When it comes to pure CPU Cooling it does. I think the source was trying to say the NH-D14 can cool competitively but also cool the rest of the components better than the others.

Exactly, just look at the Temp graph



They listed the Motherboard PWM Temp for a reason.

and the Noise level


Bare Cooler means running the Cooler outside the case with no heat source.
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That and any one that can afford an Intel Core i7-3960X will mostly likely get a custom loop.

Same heat load can be generated by any SB-E or Gulftown hex core, or any FX 8-core.

Plenty of people running these CPUs, at similar settings to this test, on air or closed loop liquid coolers.
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Seems to me the H100i handily beat the D14 in temps.

~4C with 1,000 rpm faster fans and much greater noise.
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

It also beats it in looks, ease of installation, convenience

Debatable.
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

portability

Yes.
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

and warranty (try getting your mobo replaced if the D14 cracks it).

The NH-D14 has a six year warranty vs. five years on the H100i. Also, I've never broken a motherboard with any of the two dozen plus tower coolers I've owned (including a few heavier than the NH-D14), nor have I ever heard of anyone who has, unless they were foolish enough to ship a system with the cooler attached.

Though also rare, I suspect CLC leaks cause damage much more often than the size and mass of tower coolers.
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Not sure if conclusion is serious?

It's the same conclusion I, and many others, came to quite a while ago.

A top end air cooler will cool the CPU just as well, and the board/VRM better, at an equivalent noise level, as a closed loop cooler, for less money. There is generally also less that can go wrong. Unless you are regularly, and roughly, transporting a system around, air cooling is a superior option for many.
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Same heat load can be generated by any SB-E or Gulftown hex core, or any FX 8-core.
Plenty of people running these CPUs, at similar settings to this test, on air or closed loop liquid coolers.
~4C with 1,000 rpm faster fans and much greater noise.
Debatable.
Yes.

The NH-D14 has a six year warranty vs. five years on the H100i. Also, I've never broken a motherboard with any of the two dozen plus tower coolers I've owned (including a few heavier than the NH-D14), nor have I ever heard of anyone who has, unless they were foolish enough to ship a system with the cooler attached.
Though also rare, I suspect CLC leaks cause damage much more often than the size and mass of tower coolers.

It's the same conclusion I, and many others, came to quite a while ago.
A top end air cooler will cool the CPU just as well, and the board/VRM better, at an equivalent noise level, as a closed loop cooler, for less money. There is generally also less that can go wrong. Unless you are regularly, and roughly, transporting a system around, air cooling is a superior option for many.

This 100%. I've yet to hear anyone breaking their motherboard due to a CPU cooler that was too heavy. On the other hand I hear CLC leaks all the time.
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i think the h100i will get better temps than NH-D14 on an overclocked cpu.

Three or four of the other coolers beat the NH-D14 in cooling, their later charts are factoring in noise.

I don't really like how they did the charts. I prefer to just be given the data, delta over ambient and noise levels, and then reach my own conclusions.

To be honest the performance is so close with all of these solutions that it just comes down to price and how it will fit in your case.
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This 100%. I've yet to hear anyone breaking their motherboard due to a CPU cooler that was too heavy. On the other hand I hear CLC leaks all the time.

CLC leaks happen but definitely NOT "all the time". I work at a shop where we fix and sell computers, I have used CLCs in many builds and have yet to have a single one leak. I know it happens but the failure rate is very low.
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The last wkstn I built used a 3820 and a D14. The D14 was fine on temps till about 4.8ghz which is where it just melted lol. I set the machine to 4.3ghz for daily use and it stays below 60-65c iirc.
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To be honest the performance is so close with all of these solutions that it just comes down to price and how it will fit in your case.
CLC leaks happen but definitely NOT "all the time".

yep. "all the time" meaning the handful of people that have had it happen. redface.gif

if it did happen all the time it's a wonder how these CLCs are so popular. H50 and my H100i are leak free.
 
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They really should test these all with the same fans or at the same noise level. I can't interpolate the temperatures to a noise level that would be comfortable to me.

You meant extrapolate, right? thumb.gif
    
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yep. "all the time" meaning the handful of people that have had it happen. redface.gif
if it did happen all the time it's a wonder how these CLCs are so popular. H50 and my H100i are leak free.

the OP of "all the time" was making comparison between chances of CLC leaks and D14/other big air breaking motherboards, and just based on forum seraches we know one is far more likely than the other.
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