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Beauty of CLC is that you can intake cool air into the radiator directly from outside the case while also saving yourself tons of room around the socket. Not to mention the fact that you don't have to put something as hideous as the D14 in your case...
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Beauty of CLC is that you can intake cool air into the radiator directly from outside the case

This is true, and is also one of the few good ways to get VRM cooling (if the board is close enough to the fans/radiator) without jury-rigging extra fans.

Still, with proper fan placement and airflow consideration, you should have air at near ambient temps going into an air cooler as well. There is ~250cfm of intake all within 12 inches of the front of my D14.
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Beauty of CLC is that you can intake cool air into the radiator directly from outside the case while also saving yourself tons of room around the socket.
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This is true, and is also one of the few good ways to get VRM cooling (if the board is close enough to the fans/radiator) without jury-rigging extra fans.
Still, with proper fan placement and airflow consideration, you should have air at near ambient temps going into an air cooler as well. There is ~250cfm of intake all within 12 inches of the front of my D14.

So pulling cool air from outside the case through the Radiator where it gets heated up and blow onto VRMs is suppose to cool the VRMs? The biggest plus for CLC imo is the opposite, they do double duty as Exhaust fans so you don't have to buy extra for cases that don't have enough.

It makes more sense that a Twin Tower Cooler hanging 30mm from the VRMs pulling enough air below its heatsink to cool the VRMs & low profile Rams.
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In anything other than SBE VRM cooling is irrelevant as the mobo heatsinks are more than enough to adequately cool them. Besides, the "hot" air coming out of the radiator is barely luke warm if you place your hand over it....
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Big air won't crack your motherboard or warp it if it is screwed into the motherboard plate of your case.
 
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Looking at the Case Layout I am not suprised one bit that your D14 stunk, and it is completely not the D14's fault.
The case have one partially blocked 120mm intake fan and no other intakes, your D14 is horribly underfed in term ofair intake thus under-performing.

i love how you can say all of that from one picture that isn't even showing the whole case lol. I have 7 fans on my system (I have another one at the front bay with a modded coolermaster device bay) minus the fans on the cooler and you're telling me my airflow is bad? the back is exhaust so that would help the NH-d14 wouldn't it? the bottom line is the NH-D14 is overrated. it's not as good as everyone says it is, sure my overclocks were decent but to yield zero performance from a corsair h60 and everyone here in OCN is saying the nh-d14 will demolish it
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Looking at the Case Layout I am not suprised one bit that your D14 stunk, and it is completely not the D14's fault.
The case have one partially blocked 120mm intake fan and no other intakes, your D14 is horribly underfed in term ofair intake thus under-performing.

i love how you can say all of that from one picture that isn't even showing the whole case lol. I have 7 fans on my system (I have another one at the front bay with a modded coolermaster device bay) minus the fans on the cooler and you're telling me my airflow is bad? the back is exhaust so that would help the NH-d14 wouldn't it? the bottom line is the NH-D14 is overrated. it's not as good as everyone says it is, sure my overclocks were decent but to yield zero performance from a corsair h60 and everyone here in OCN is saying the nh-d14 will demolish it

Well it should. But it doesn't in your system for whatever reason. I bet you if your system was breadboarded out of case, it'd perform way better.

My tentative guess at a major contributor is negative pressure doesn't diminishes the performance? In the immediate vicinity it looks like there's going to be a negative air pocket around the D14.

Anyways, you'd agree that in theory, even if your head!, that it should perform better no?
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i love how you can say all of that from one picture that isn't even showing the whole case lol. I have 7 fans on my system (I have another one at the front bay with a modded coolermaster device bay) minus the fans on the cooler and you're telling me my airflow is bad? the back is exhaust so that would help the NH-d14 wouldn't it? the bottom line is the NH-D14 is overrated. it's not as good as everyone says it is, sure my overclocks were decent but to yield zero performance from a corsair h60 and everyone here in OCN is saying the nh-d14 will demolish it

Care to explain where you other 4 fans are(an how many are intakes which is key), I see the PSU as one (exhaust)fan so there is 3 more to go.?? The Two Exhaust fan would do zero to help the D14 if not enough air are coming in, seeing how the bottom is sealed so the only place air could come in is through the front which I see only enough room for 1 120mm fan(2 horizontally stacked 120mm?).


From What I see there your exhaust fans out number the intake fans, and that's pretty bad considering there are not many openings in front or bottom to pull intake the air from other than the 1 default 120mm fan slot, a big air cooler will definitely suffer from not getting enough intake.

From Hardware Canucks' case review:
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What can really be said about airflow in this case? In my opinion it is next to non-existent and surely not enough for a pair of 8800-series space heaters. G80 cards require a constant supply of fresh air in order to maintain a lower load temperature and the Aurora just doesn’t supply enough of it. Here is one of the reasons:

Not only does the front 120mm fan run at an extremely slow speed (1000Rpm) but the hard drive cage provides too much restriction for the small amount of airflow from the front fan. It would have been even more restricted if I would have kept the toolbox in place.

Even the two rear fans do not move enough air to inspire much confidence. The bottom-most fan (which is mounted directly above the graphics card) expels waves of heat which makes a rear-mounted radiator a very bad decision.

I am all for quiet fans but there comes a point when silence has to be sacrificed for airflow. The best thing Gigabyte could have done would have been to increase the speed of the fans and provide mounting points for a 120mm fan on the outside of the HD cage. Or at least provide adjustable-speed fans like Antec Tri-Cool models.

Many things can be said about the D14, but overrated in term of cooling performance definitely does not apply, your case failed the D14.
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i love how you can say all of that from one picture that isn't even showing the whole case lol. I have 7 fans on my system (I have another one at the front bay with a modded coolermaster device bay) minus the fans on the cooler and you're telling me my airflow is bad? the back is exhaust so that would help the NH-d14 wouldn't it? the bottom line is the NH-D14 is overrated. it's not as good as everyone says it is, sure my overclocks were decent but to yield zero performance from a corsair h60 and everyone here in OCN is saying the nh-d14 will demolish it

Then why does virtually every other review and most user comparisons say otherwise? Are you saying that everyone else is wrong and that you're right? It seems like the H60 was only better for your particular case scenario, while virtually every other review has the NH-D14 outperforming the H100 in terms of noise/performance.
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I want more of these revives so they will come with better CLC coolers before I upgrade my computer in 3 years time. If it do not brakesmile.gif.


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