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I've got a home server that I use mainly use as a fileserver and also as a media streamer to my PS3. I want to upgrade my RAID10 array from 4 500GB HDD to 4 2TB HDD's (thinking the WD Red series works for this). However the newer drives are SATA III 6.0GB/s drives while my server's motherboard is an older DFI P35 board that I believe only supports Sata II 3.0GB/s. Would I need to upgrade my board and is it even worth it to do so performance wise?

EDIT: I'd obviously also have to upgrade my RAM if I upgraded my board so my question is is it worth it to upgrade my board and RAM just to get SATA III capability?
Edited by PuffinMyLye - 12/31/12 at 6:55pm
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Your best option would be to pick up a RAID Controller. This will benefit you two fold.

1. You can copy your data live. Using the new HDDs and controller you can copy your existing data from you old array.

2. You gain performance for having a dedicated controller and due to SATA2.

Check eBay for Dell Perc 6/i cards. They're around $40-$60.

This is assuming you have PCIe. Which the DFI P35...does..right? tongue.gif
    
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Your best option would be to pick up a RAID Controller. This will benefit you two fold.
1. You can copy your data live. Using the new HDDs and controller you can copy your existing data from you old array.
2. You gain performance for having a dedicated controller and due to SATA2.
Check eBay for Dell Perc 6/i cards. They're around $40-$60.
This is assuming you have PCIe. Which the DFI P35...does..right? tongue.gif

Do the Perc 6/i cards support 4 drive RAID? From what I've seen they only have 2 slots.
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Do the Perc 6/i cards support 4 drive RAID? From what I've seen they only have 2 slots.

The two connectors are usually for SAS drives. You can get cables, cheaply, for 1 SAS port to 2 or 4 SATA.
    
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The two connectors are usually for SAS drives. You can get cables, cheaply, for 1 SAS port to 2 or 4 SATA.

That's what I thought. Excellent. Thanks for the suggestion. Is there anything specific to look for when searching for one of these cards on ebay or are they basically all the same?

EDIT: The Perc 6/i only supports Sata II 3.0 not Sata III 6.0?
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That's what I thought. Excellent. Thanks for the suggestion. Is there anything specific to look for when searching for one of these cards on ebay or are they basically all the same?
EDIT: The Perc 6/i only supports Sata II 3.0 not Sata III 6.0?

Don't think so.

http://www.dell.com/content/topics/topic.aspx/global/products/pvaul/topics/en/us/raid_controller?c=us&l=en&cs=555
    
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That's what I thought. Excellent. Thanks for the suggestion. Is there anything specific to look for when searching for one of these cards on ebay or are they basically all the same?
EDIT: The Perc 6/i only supports Sata II 3.0 not Sata III 6.0?


You don't need SATA 6Gbps for HDDs.... The top-end HDDs are not even bottlenecked by SATA 1.5Gbps today.

SATA is backwards compatible... a SATA 6Gbps HDD will work on a SATA 3Gbps controller.

Some old intial SATA 1.5Gbps controllers need jumpers set on the HDDs... but I don't think that's an issue with your native controller.
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You don't need SATA 6Gbps for HDDs.... The top-end HDDs are not even bottlenecked by SATA 1.5Gbps today.

Real good point.

I think the biggest performance boost would be from moving to hardware RAID, not firmware/software.
    
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You don't need SATA 6Gbps for HDDs.... The top-end HDDs are not even bottlenecked by SATA 1.5Gbps today.
SATA is backwards compatible... a SATA 6Gbps HDD will work on a SATA 3Gbps controller.
Some old intial SATA 1.5Gbps controllers need jumpers set on the HDDs... but I don't think that's an issue with your native controller.

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Real good point.
I think the biggest performance boost would be from moving to hardware RAID, not firmware/software.

So in other words, getting a Perc 6i should is the way to go? Should I even get Sata III drives then? These were what I was considering because they are specifically for NAS/RAID setups. Are there better Sata II alternatives for cheaper?
Edited by PuffinMyLye - 12/31/12 at 9:36pm
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if your server is connected to the network through gigabit LAN you would only be able to get a maximum transfer rate of about 120MBs, any good hardware raid controller is capable of reaching this speed.

so getting 6gbps drives to increase speed wont help if you are transfering files over the LAN.

however the red series drives have TLER built in so it can avoid problems with EEC errors.
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