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Well, it's not just Physx, is it? But I see your point. But, there's a £40 difference between a GTX680 and a HD7970 here.

There is CUDA which I use often but I really wouldn't count it as how many gamers actually use it?
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post #122 of 302
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There is CUDA which I use often but I really wouldn't count it as how many gamers actually use it?

Probbaly not many. There's folding, I guess.

But the point is it's not a lot of money, and NVidia cards are good quality (not saying AMD aren't at all. I know for sure they are).
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I just want to say that Blameless is maybe the best poster on OCN and it's great AMD is acknowledging and fixing the issue.

Do think it's funny that you can only see this with a high speed camera though. To be fair I haven't owned a GCN card since the 12.4 drivers were new so I guess this could be awful and I just never experienced it.
    
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post #125 of 302
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I just want to say that Blameless is maybe the best poster on OCN and it's great AMD is acknowledging and fixing the issue.
Do think it's funny that you can only see this with a high speed camera though. To be fair I haven't owned a GCN card since the 12.4 drivers were new so I guess this could be awful and I just never experienced it.
Same here, it makes me wonder how useful latency tests are without further information. Like how noticeable is it to someone viewing at full speed. Then we have to deal with the fact that everyone deals with and experiences micro-stuttering differently. So, how do you translate the data on the graph to a real world experience? While being able to factor in someone's either sensitivity or tolerance to micro-stutter. These are all problems that will need to be overcome before we can really move forward with latency tests in general. But it's a step in the right direction.
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Do think it's funny that you can only see this with a high speed camera though. To be fair I haven't owned a GCN card since the 12.4 drivers were new so I guess this could be awful and I just never experienced it.

I think the contention is that you can notice it at normal speed, but the high speed camera lets you see exactly what is happening, not that you can only see it with a high speed camera. You can see a water drop splash in a puddle, but a high speed camera lets you watch the full interaction - like that.
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I just want to say that Blameless is maybe the best poster on OCN .

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Nvidia and Intel have always been the quality brands. That's why there is the price premium.
AMD is meant for budget builds. Nothing to see here. wink.gif
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What? This confirms Nvidia has the smoothest gameplay experience. Their cards cost more for a reason people. rolleyes.gif
If you don't care about jerky frames, worse image quality and no physics, AMD is fine. It might even get higher fps sometimes, but it won't look as good. Why would you expect a 350 dollar product to outperform a 500 dollar one?
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Last I checked AMD doesnt have TXAA. It's been rated as the highest quality AA and only runs on nvidia cards, so yes image quality is better. Not putting down AMD cards though, just saying Nvidia is for the bigger spenders.

Dude, you really should stop typing stuff.
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I think the contention is that you can notice it at normal speed, but the high speed camera lets you see exactly what is happening, not that you can only see it with a high speed camera. You can see a water drop splash in a puddle, but a high speed camera lets you watch the full interaction - like that.

Exactly. Watching in real time, it catches your eye but slow-mo shows what actually happened.
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And like I said before, I don't need to lift a finger because pretty much all benchmarks performed by professional benchmarking websites, done properly, show the GTX670 out pacing the HD7950 smile.gif

Yes. Because they test at stock.
At stock the GTX 670 is faster, my GTX 670 @ stock clocks (1228/6208) was faster than my current HD 7950 @ (900/5000) .
Once overclocked the 7950 will win in most demanding bandwidth hungry games (The Witcher 2, Crysis games, Sleeping Dogs, Metro 2033, F3AR (4x AA) ...etc ) and at any resolution higher than 1920x1200. The GTX 670 will only win when the games don't put too much load on the bandwidth or when the fps is already too high on both cards.
My HD 7950 at 1100/1500 can easily beat my prior GTX (1300/7400) in those games, and when I Oc the 7950 to 1200+/1600+ there is no contest.
I know alot of people will accuse me as an AMD fanboy but this is the truth from someone tried both cards.
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