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I was about to sell my 7950 and buy a 670 tomorrow just because the stutter in FC3 and BL2... I wonder if I should wait. I really cant stand it in FC3, if my fps goes under 60 the game stutters like crazy.

Far Cry 3 runs like crap because of Ubisoft, not because of AMD.

Just go check Ubisoft forum, you'll see the amount of issues, unbelievable.
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Far Cry 3 runs like crap because of Ubisoft, not because of AMD.
Just go check Ubisoft forum, you'll see the amount of issues, unbelievable.

Yeah. Did you see the video with 7970 cf and gtx690? So stuttering but in gtx690 was simply unplayable
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Yeah like nvidia dont have issues...

yeah, they do but to some extent and not prolong it for a year. I just hope that amd put out a real good driver in the future for all those people that spent countless hours of unisntalling and re-installing their drivers everytime they switch games....
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It's being fixed.

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It's being fixed.
/thread

yeah, for another year!
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FC3 is definitely broke on AMD gpu's. My single 580 outperforms both of my 7970's...
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FC3 is definitely broke on AMD gpu's. My single 580 outperforms both of my 7970's...

Thank you, because I thought I was losing my mind.
    
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Thank you, because I thought I was losing my mind.

It affects both teams.

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=371960
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It affects both teams.
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=371960

Damn, thanks. I don't know if i'll even finish the game. The stutter and random crashes ruined it. /lame
    
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When someone accepts a plea deal whether the person is guilty or not the person will be legally and publicly perceived guilty whether they did the crime or not.

Some games most certainly have higher latencies on AMD while others have remained mostly the same. This whole debacle started because one of the most problematic engines, ever used on many different major releases, was used to display an issue that was exacerbated by said engine and games.

This only allows the green side to say "yep, we're 100% right", and said users to continue to troll and make one sided arguments with half the info. Throughout many years you'd always hear NV is smoother and from TTR's previous test on the 570/6970 the 6970 managed to win out some games in latency to be the smoother experience. Yet if you checked any forum across the net the general view was NV was better in all games and that is still true to this day.

We'll use the OC vs stock and Color arguments and show how funny things are there with today's biases.

The argument Red always makes (which is fair) is that the 670/680 are never stock because of boost and while a bench will say 7970@925 vs 680@1000 in reality with the boost it can be something like 925 vs 1150 and it's not a fair fight. Then Red will say well OC the 7970 to 1150, but green will say no this is stock test, red will say it's an easy thing to fix and compare for an even fight, green will say no it isn't stock.

As of late people have brought out the whole AMD "Looks better" color argument (also the IQ with different methods but this isn't what I'm talking about) and the first thing people say (which I already stated) is NV and AMD use different color profiles, so NV's looked a bit more "washed out" while AMD's colors look more "vibrant". The fix is simple, calibrate your freaking screen's OSD/ GPU control panel/ windows settings properly and this wouldn't be an issue.

Funny thing is everyone with an NV GPU first response was? "Well you can fix them easily by calibrating properly" as it should have been because it's a non issue. The Stock gpu test should be done on actual stock clocks and removed the random turbo or allowed AMD to boost with the same % of boost or same clocks and neither side should have an issue with either solution.


The point that I'm making is everyone makes arguments for their side when it suits them and most don't even try to be objective.


Some of us have wanted many different games tested because we feel the Creation Engine/Gamebryo might be the single worst game to test MS or any kind of stability issue because of it's inherent shoddiness (Anyone ever finish Fallout 3 without community mods fixing issues? because I know I crashed every 5 mins with either 4870/460/5870 CF/SLI or single gpu nothing and official made a dent in those crashes).


I'm glad AMD will look into it as it will improve drivers in general but unlike most I'm not this seeing as some come on affirmation that TTR's finding were correct, and ALL games show this stutter like others around the net seem to be stating. We still need to run many more test runs with exact areas and time stamps so we can compare with different areas and games, some levels AMD can destroy NV, likewise it can flip, then in certain levels NV and AMD are neck to neck in the same game. If one person does a review on the first part guess who wins? AMD, if it's done on the second part with maybe super high Tess NV wins, in the last area it's a draw.


We still need much more info and even when a company says "we'll fix it" that doesn't exactly come quickly.


For FC3 I would also like to warn AMD users to hold your horses until an actual fix is out for it, during my 5870/460 CF/SLI days I choose to keep the 460's in my main specifically because of NV's superior game support and they would release fixed profiles MUCH quicker. FC3 should be a good gauge on how much AMD's drivers have actually improved and how far behind their release is behind NV's eventual fix.

In my own mind AMD is still a bit behind NV in drivers but they are no longer a laughing stock a some would like to still believe.
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