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First off, you don't need that expensive of a sound card for those headphones...not in the slightest. An Asus Xonar DG would be fine with the Razer headset if that.

Second, Razer headset is just bad for actual audio quality

Third, 7.1 on a headset is a gimmick, it's pretty much impossible to get 7.1 in headphones. I have heard they do exist but they cost a lot of money and I know for a fact Razer is not one of them.

Fourth, the mic's on these headsets are cheap, you could get the same quality from a $5 logitech.

Fifth, you mentioned beats and good in the same sentence...Ultrasone HFI-580's blow them out of the water at close to half the price.

I would recommend returning said items if you are able and doing some reasearch.

The Dr Dre Beats are good for music on a ipad, iphone or laptop and thats my opinion i know there are better headphones out there and im sure i would only be able to buy them from a hifi shop not the local electronic shop or computer store.

I cant see how its a gimmick the 7.1 its says its the worlds first 7.1 headset set. and when i done the setup test i could distinctly hear the different drivers and you can see them too. but i do understand the drivers and the rest of gear is not the best but there is not any other true 7.1 headset available. so what do you do if you want positional awareness with gaming and not rock the house to death.

I have a Sony Muteki 7.2 hifi system is that any good? it cost me 900 aud and more than happy with it. i went to a hifi shop near me and they put a 5k hifi setup on for me and there is no comparison the 5k smashes mine and even sounds better than my local cinema lol. but where do you draw the line?

So you know what i have recommend the best headset for me. I dont care for music or movies on my computer.
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First off, you don't need that expensive of a sound card for those headphones...not in the slightest. An Asus Xonar DG would be fine with the Razer headset if that.

Second, Razer headset is just bad for actual audio quality

Third, 7.1 on a headset is a gimmick, it's pretty much impossible to get 7.1 in headphones. I have heard they do exist but they cost a lot of money and I know for a fact Razer is not one of them.

Fourth, the mic's on these headsets are cheap, you could get the same quality from a $5 logitech.

Fifth, you mentioned beats and good in the same sentence...Ultrasone HFI-580's blow them out of the water at close to half the price.

I would recommend returning said items if you are able and doing some reasearch.

The Dr Dre Beats are good for music on a ipad, iphone or laptop and thats my opinion i know there are better headphones out there and im sure i would only be able to buy them from a hifi shop not the local electronic shop or computer store.

I cant see how its a gimmick the 7.1 its says its the worlds first 7.1 headset set. and when i done the setup test i could distinctly hear the different drivers and you can see them too. but i do understand the drivers and the rest of gear is not the best but there is not any other true 7.1 headset available. so what do you do if you want positional awareness with gaming and not rock the house to death.

I have a Sony Muteki 7.2 hifi system is that any good? it cost me 900 aud and more than happy with it. i went to a hifi shop near me and they put a 5k hifi setup on for me and there is no comparison the 5k smashes mine and even sounds better than my local cinema lol. but where do you draw the line?

So you know what i have recommend the best headset for me. I dont care for music or movies on my computer.

I played MW2, CoD4, BC2, BF2, BF3, Tribes: Ascend and whatever else on my €50 headphones for a couple of years now and I've always heard where people are. Maybe you're just deaf?
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If it's for positional things such as FPS then the AD-700's, they have the best sound stage (which is what you're looking for in positional awareness). These headphones favor high's and mids but really lack in lows which is what you want for a competitive style fps gaming. I also recommend a Asus Xonar DG for the sound card.

 

This would be the perfect setup for you and cost you $200 less.

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well i dont know why u said its imposible ?

but they can recreate 7.1 physically and not digitally , and yes , they sound awesome ... for gaming

5 speakers each ear equals 7.1

left ear
1front
1center
1 surround
1 rear
1 sub

right ear
1front
1center
1 surround
1 rear
1 sub
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well i dont know why u said its imposible ?

but they can recreate 7.1 physically and not digitally , and yes , they sound awesome ... for gaming

5 speakers each ear equals 7.1

left ear
1front
1center
1 surround
1 rear
1 sub

right ear
1front
1center
1 surround
1 rear
1 sub

Right, forgot we were talking about headphones here. Anyway, if you can, you should get the AD-700's that other guy recommended.
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what about the Beyerdynamic Tesla T1 with the ASUS Phoebus?
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what about the Beyerdynamic Tesla T1 with the ASUS Phoebus?

When you're talking a $1,000 headphone...then no, you want something completely different then...really reconsidering that you're a troll.


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if he wants a 1k headphone to skype ... let it be lol

@B-rock

i love your compelling argument on why the Tiamat cant reproduce 7.1

"They can put "all" the speakers in there, but you're not going to get a 7.1 sound. It just won't happen. "

that has got to be the best review ive ever read ...


but seriously , facts and not "opinions" next time man >.>



( dont come up with the freq or the ohm of another headset please , that doesnt matter in the end , its how they listen , and the tiamat sounds good to me but are kinda expensive )
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When you're talking a $1,000+ headphone...then no, you want something completely different then...really reconsidering that you're a troll.

If i new what i was talking about i wouldnt keep on.

Its looking like i got dooped by Razer and the 7.1 but what can i do? ill keep them and see how they go and when i find someone who recommends something better and can back it up ill get that and give the Razer Tiamats to my mate.
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if he wants a 1k headphone to skype ... let it be lol
@B-rock
i love your compelling argument on why the Tiamat cant reproduce 7.1
"They can put "all" the speakers in there, but you're not going to get a 7.1 sound. It just won't happen. "
that has got to be the best review ive ever read ...
but seriously , facts and not "opinions" next time man >.>
( dont come up with the freq or the ohm of another headset please , that doesnt matter in the end , its how they listen , and the tiamat sounds good to me but are kinda expensive )

That wasn't a review, it was never meant to be a review. How you interpreted it as a review is beyond me. If you honestly think that it's possible for speakers in that close of a range to give you a true 7.1 sound, then I have nothing more to say to you. Despite knowing that what I'm saying is falling on deaf ears I will continue.

 

Facts not opinions? All you gave me from the tiamat is they "sound good" and that they're expensive.

 

Sound good compared to what? Listening to what? What do they excel in? Highs, mids, lows? What about their sound stage?

 

The AD-700's that I recommended are known in the audiophile world as some of the best bang for the buck headphones for competitive gaming such as FPS's. Like I said, the tiamat's will sound good if you're used to bad headphones, it's the same situation as Beats. People are used to iPod headphones and they try a "real" headphone and then they're blown away. It's the same situation.

 

Edit: I also told you what headphone to look at, I'm not going to do all the research for you. Look up reviews on Head-Fi.org about the AD-700's and see if what they say is what you're looking for. I'm sure you're capable of this. I have also given you a quick synapse on the AD-700's earlier, now it's your turn to do your part.


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