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That wasn't a review, it was never meant to be a review. How you interpreted it as a review is beyond me. If you honestly think that it's possible for speakers in that close of a range to give you a true 7.1 sound, then I have nothing more to say to you. Despite knowing that what I'm saying is falling on deaf ears I will continue.

Facts not opinions? All you gave me from the tiamat is they "sound good" and that they're expensive.

Sound good compared to what? Listening to what? What do they excel in? Highs, mids, lows? What about their sound stage?

The AD-700's that I recommended are known in the audiophile world as some of the best bang for the buck headphones for competitive gaming such as FPS's. Like I said, the tiamat's will sound good if you're used to bad headphones, it's the same situation as Beats. People are used to iPod headphones and they try a "real" headphone and then they're blown away. It's the same situation.

Edit: I also told you what headphone to look at, I'm not going to do all the research for you. Look up reviews on Head-Fi.org about the AD-700's and see if what they say is what you're looking for. I'm sure you're capable of this. I have also given you a quick synapse on the AD-700's earlier, now it's your turn to do your part.

dont go TOO literal with what i said , u know what i was trying to imply to you (i know i began a little with sarcasm but i guess u took it like an attack)... dont just say something is bad because the internet said or someone said or in fact , someone who isnt yourself said it is ... THAT was what i was trying to said . the same people at Head-fi will tell you "test them before buy" over 1000 positive reviews ... and i know alot of people just cant stand the 700's because of how they fit on the head ... so there ... i crushed your recommendation ... what now ?

but u came all defensive and smarta!@# about it ... i hate when people just say "they are bad , better get X" but just based on the review on X place...

about why am i defensive about the Tiamat .. well i dont have them , but my Real life friend got them and we tested them (amateur testing like music styles movies and games and soundcards) and the conclusion we end up with was ...

THEY ARE GOOD , but expensive (and the mic doesnt sound great compared to the charcarias) .... compared to like our 9 headsets we have here (from all of our friends we gather up when we decided to compare it)

what are u going to do about it ? come to my home and beat me ? ...

in the end ... just go somewhere when you can test the headphone / headset (headsets sometimes are not that good value wise , but for the purpouse they are good , because if you are looking for audiophile headsets to play games , wich they dont exist and dont come up with the beyerdinamics 400$ with an attached mic but the non mic is worth like 150$ ...... its like a Zonda for mountain trails ...
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The Ad-700's are for people that can't afford to get into higher end phones. They are decent enough but just because a bunch of poor kids say they are the best, doesn't make them the best. If that was the case, Beats would be the best, which they clearly are not.
and BTW, I have a set of the Ad-700, as well as the tiamat 7.1 among a ton of other sets from Ultrasone sigs, to Denon AH-D5000 to Senn 650 and my new 363D's with attached mic. I also am running the Phoebus turd of a soundcard. It's sounds decent enough but the driver are a complete joke and Asus will never get another cent out of me for a soundcard.

The tiamats are pretty good but not great. The positioning works quite well actually, better than my roccat kaves and meduas 5.1's (all true 5.1 phones) they are pretty well made and are very comfortable. It does take a bit of tweaking to get the tiamats to sound their best and I personally don't like the way they sound with music but for gaming, they are great. They have good bass, and separation but the mic is questionable but it is what it is.

We all know B-rock doesn't own the razers so his comment are just trolling anyways, probably owns the 700's and thinks they are the best, typical to put down everything else he doesn't own. Regardless, there is not any one set of phones I've ever heard that does everything better than another, you have to pick what you like about different ones and live with their shortcomings. The razers are pretty good for gaming, that seems to say enough.
Though for when surround sound isn't needed, I use my 363D's. The new usb soundcard does a decent enough job at creating a 7.1 field but the separation just isn't the same but I never bought them for their 7.1, i bought them because the mic is great, and they sound great with music as well as games, though lack the bass I'd want, even paired up with my Woo audio gear.
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Right, since reviews from professionals aren't good enough to satisfy you trolls, it's time to abandon thread.
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I'm done arguing with you guys, I don't even think any of you have done any research on headphones nor have tried. What I'm saying is that there are better headphones for the price, here is a link to a sticky in this forum and I recommend reading it.

 

http://www.overclock.net/t/1014902/ocns-most-recommended-audio-products/0_20

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You guys can buy whatever you want but the OP didn't ask to have you chuckleheads come in and rag on him for what he bought. Not everyone hears the same way and it shows that neither of you 2 have any idea what audio is all about. Quote from this and that on forums... who cares, if you haven't had first hand experience with them, you have no opinion. All that matters is that he's happy with his headphones and there's no reason he shouldn't be.
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yeah , government is right , im sorry if my post sond hatefull or anything negative , it was not my intend
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yeah , government is right , im sorry if my post sond hatefull or anything negative , it was not my intend

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Hi!

You didn't have to specify that you're not an audiophile, buying razer products kinda explained that biggrin.gif

But seriously though I'm working on a theory and could use your help.
Was wondering if you have played Far Cry 3 at all with that sound card.
And if you did, did you encounter some bluescreens or system freezes?


Edit:
Just read this thread, good laughs to be had here.
To end this argument that has been going on here let me tell you that these "professional reviewers" almost never know what they are talking about.
To clarify this, you can do a comparison test with Razer headsets and 1000£ headphones, but if you're using MP3s on an unadjusted audiocard that hasn't opened up yet with ears that aren't used to listening to quality then they will sound exactly the same.



TL;DR All headsets are horrible, get headphones with separate mics
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Using virtual 7.1 with high-quality HEADPHONES is WAY better than "true" 7.1 made up of 4 20/30mm drivers. My simple $80Aurvana Lives with a $80 Xonar DX and virtual 7.1 will have way better quality and directional accuracy than your Beats or Tiamat no matter what sound card you buy. Heck, I'd bet my old PC333D set is better than those Tiamats. Yes, cram 5 earbud-sized drivers into a can and call it "true 7.1 sound." Brilliant.

The thing is, most headphones actually suit gaming better than headsets. AD700's and Aurvana Lives have quality in mids and highs and excellent soundstage . Headsets often focus on bass and ignore soundstage. With my Lives, I can pinpoint footsteps to 10 degrees of accuracy and shoot enemies through walls due to the wide soundstage. I can only hear those footsteps in the first place because of the emphasis on mids and highs. Headsets drown out the highs with heavy bass, thus you don't even hear them. The PC360 is notable for not having those issues, but that's a $250 headset, it had better be perfect.

But really, the Tiamat 7.1 is OK for soundstage, thought terrible for quality. You can hear directions well, but you can't distinguish footsteps from a trickling river. You can try adjusting settings in the soundcard control panel to make it decent.
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I think I'm going to get the sennheiheiser hd800 or beyerdynamic t1

How will I hook them up to my Phoebus?
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