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So I did some quick listening with JPLAY, and it definitely does sound better than foobar2000. Only problem is, it's 99 EUR, or 130.53 in USD. CRAZY!

I also don't know how it sounds better than Cplay, which is from my understand very similar. They both use ASIO for playback instead of whatever-windows-equivalent is called.

Lots of skepticism as well over at Hydrogenaudio, but the thread is quite "elitist" so take that for what it's worth.

All in all I will say with certainty my ears were very happy with the results of JPLAY, but that price doesn't justify the results. Besides, you don't get to skip around in music (not that you should, you should enjoy a song in its entirety, but it's an odd thing to not have).

The Cplay website is very interesting, I'm considering creating a rig similar to their guide with parts laying around to see if I can come up with sound playback quality equal or better to JPLAY, which the people over at Hydrogenaudio claim, if set up correctly, will surpass JPLAY in quality. And, Cplay/cMP is free!

@billbartuska, thanks for enlightening me on JPLAY, gives me things to think about!
post #22 of 38
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Originally Posted by TMan459 View Post

So I did some quick listening with JPLAY,....Only problem is, it's 99 EUR, or 130.53 in USD. CRAZY!

They both use ASIO for playback instead of whatever-windows-equivalent is called.

An analogy:
I crew chief for two automobile racing teams. I doesn't take any money to make a driver/car combination go as fast as they can, but to go any faster, takes money.

Windows can use Kernel Streaming (if you do some configuring).
The other choices in JPlay are: ASIO, Direct Sound, Disk Writer, WASAPI, WASAPI-Event Style, or Wave Out.
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i just use Winamp. searching songs is fast and accurate. and FLAC is actually compressed. just a little higher format than mp3. .wav is the uncompressed one.
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Windows can use Kernel Streaming (if you do some configuring).
The other choices in JPlay are: ASIO, Direct Sound, Disk Writer, WASAPI, WASAPI-Event Style, or Wave Out.

You'll have to pardon my noobness. Trying to become more versed in audiophilia but I'm still a rookie! I actually am using Kernel Streaming with my Xonar DX. Friggin' music sounds awesome. Obviously things can be improved but I'm very happy with my setup!

Now I need to scrounge up money for JPLAY. Still think I'm going to try a Cplay/cMP box for the heck of it though.

So, from my experiences, JPLAY hooked into whatever it supports (either standalone, JRiver, iTunes or foobar2000) sounds superior to said apps playback defaults.

I'm done giving my less than expert advice here. OP, I hope you find a solution that works for you, and that the people who posted in this thread can help you in that decision!
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It sounds like a lot of people in this thread know a fair bit about media players, so if y'all don't mind I'm going to pop in here with a quick question.

Is anyone here familiar with GOM player? I don't currently have the sound system for my software to matter much, but I use GOM as my all-purpose media player (VLC & winamp replacement, basically) since it's pretty darn convenient and now I'd like to know if it would be good enough if I had a quality sound card/speakers/etc.. Apparently some media players are better than others when it comes to high-quality sound. (Who knew?)
    
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Gom? It all depends on what amp/speakers you get. Cheep sound card/headphones and $29 speakers, it won't make much difference what player you use.

What's your budget?
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Oh, no budget. I'm not planning an upgrade at the moment. I was just curious. Thanks for the response though.
    
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Also if you don't mind having two applications installed you can go with Media monkey and something like Exact Audio Copy. EAC will rip your CDs and if there's a bit of error it will download references and correct the error, I think that's a nice feature, so if you like MediaMonkey try EAC just for ripping, good luck! thumb.gif

I used Mediamonkey on my Laptop when im listening too music at work etc.... Strang thing tho
I liked it so far. BUt i like This Foobar2000 Much better now biggrin.gif I feel like a mediaplayer Whore !!!

I can switch easy and gonna keep switching when i find something better tongue.gif so suggestions are welcome and i prefer freestuff rolleyes.gif Yea sorry i feel like i havent invested enough into hardware to buy expensive software to play my music.

So freeware i think this Foobar2000 is better then mediamonkey thumb.gif

I wil check this EAC if i need more ripping when i buy new CD's wink.gif


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You'll have to pardon my noobness. Trying to become more versed in audiophilia but I'm still a rookie! I actually am using Kernel Streaming with my Xonar DX. Friggin' music sounds awesome. Obviously things can be improved but I'm very happy with my setup!
Now I need to scrounge up money for JPLAY. Still think I'm going to try a Cplay/cMP box for the heck of it though.
So, from my experiences, JPLAY hooked into whatever it supports (either standalone, JRiver, iTunes or foobar2000) sounds superior to said apps playback defaults.
I'm done giving my less than expert advice here. OP, I hope you find a solution that works for you, and that the people who posted in this thread can help you in that decision!

Gosh thanks im sure i will find something u guys have been realy helpfull so far.
Stil not sure about FLAC files, cant seem to find much of them on Torrent sites redface.gif
(i hope it is oke i talk about torrents? im not breaking any laws so i feel i can talk about it rolleyes.gif )
     
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My preferred codec and container is FLAC for audio files. Quality doesn't get better than lossless, the compression ratio of other lossless CODECs is not really any better than FLAC, and FLAC is the most well supported of the free/open source lossless audio formats.

Anyway, I've seen a lot of mention of audio players, but no one has mentioned the type of audio output the player is using?

Most media players default to direct sound, or waveout, or otherwise make use of shared mode audio, in Windows. This is bad because the shared mode mixer converts all audio played to one format and can cause a loss of quality during conversion. For the absolute best audio quality, you want make sure you are using WASAPI exclusive mode, ASIO, kernel streaming, or some other method of getting an unaltered audio output.

Personally, I find the difference between standard shared mode and exclusive mode or ASIO to be bigger, generally, than the difference between a good MP3 and FLAC.
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Interesting ohno-smiley02.gif


Must get more knowledge typer.gif





I have read something about this kernel streaming, on the addons availeble for Foobar
I copied the link for later sinds i have a thing for addon/extensions when they improve stuff.



Im just reading al the posts above but its too much thing i dont know anything about.
Like this Kernel streaming for example.

I think i asked for too much i can handle wubsmiley.gif
But i must know everything !!

Where should i start? File types or media players .. ?

I feel like im going to be asking useless questions without knowing what direction of knowledge i want go for
     
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