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This looks no worse than the product code system pc gamers(myself included) have been dealing with for years. In fact it's better because now you can't lose the code; you don't even need to connect to the internet! I WISH we had this on PC instead of the current system. For people worried about rentals, rental places will probably get special discs with "skeleton tags" that work for any console; they might have some features(multiplayer?) removed though, like rental movies usually have the special features removed.
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I don't see what the problem is, they'll still have it better then us.
At least they can use their disc as many times as you want.
unlike some games that I had to buy more then once because my serial code was used more then 5 times LOL
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I don't see a problem with this. It's the same with PC games. If you can't afford a few $60 games, you're probably not a part of the market they're looking to corner.
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I'm not defending Sony here but if the games are tied to your PSN account there will be nothing stopping you from going to a freind's house and signing in on their PS4 to play your games. The games will NOT be tied to hardware but that still doesn't make things right....
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

I'm not defending Sony here but if the games are tied to your PSN account there will be nothing stopping you from going to a freind's house and signing in on their PS4 to play your games. The games will NOT be tied to hardware but that still doesn't make things right....

Well the article doesn't put it that way
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The patent explains that games will come with contactless tags that will be read by your console in much the same way as modern bank cards. When a disc is first used, the disc ID and player ID will be stored on the tag. Every time the disc is used in future, the tag will check if the two ID’s match up and, if not, then the disc won’t work.

This makes it sound like the disk is attached to the console...not to the account. Using the PSN account is the online DRM that they are trying to avoid.
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We already put up with this on Steam, the difference is that I get games for $10 on Steam, if they want the same system to work on consoles they'd better be ready to see some really, really slow sales figures in the first year or two.
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If it were hardware oriented I don't think that would pass legal standards. Unless there was a way to recover games due to a malfunctioning console. I doubt Sony could get away with forcing customers to repurchase all of their games just because their PS4 blew up...
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It matters if a game or any property is used then sold to another party, from manufacturer pow. Lol, otherwise, a game could dance around a thousand people, so what's the point for "Purchasing".

The thing is, Sony could make its own 2nd hand market with a Steam-like interface and just take %5-10 off the transactions. That would actually stabilize 2nd hand prices too. No $5 games for ya biggrin.gif Probably only half the price, which even works better for Sony in the end.

I wonder why they wouldn't go that way.

PS: Just like renaming your char, or moving to another realm in WoW. Just a cdkey transfer to another account on Sony's website and charge like $10, then it's up to whoever sells it to add a surplus or not biggrin.gif Simple.
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post #239 of 545
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Well the article doesn't put it that way
This makes it sound like the disk is attached to the console...not to the account. Using the PSN account is the online DRM that they are trying to avoid.

" To the player ID "

Not the console.
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It matters if a game or any property is used then sold to another party, from manufacturer pow. Lol, otherwise, a game could dance around a thousand people, so what's the point for "Purchasing".
The thing is, Sony could make its own 2nd hand market with a Steam-like interface and just take %5-10 off the transactions. That would actually stabilize 2nd hand prices too. No $5 games for ya biggrin.gif Probably only half the price, which even works better for Sony in the end.
I wonder why they wouldn't go that way.
PS: Just like renaming your char, or moving to another realm in WoW. Just a cdkey transfer to another account on Sony's website and charge like $10, then it's up to whoever sells it to add a surplus or not biggrin.gif Simple.

But that would be online DRM and it seems they don't want to do that. Though I seriously doubt there would be that many PS4s around that were not connected to the Internet...not unless they were hacked and they didn't want updates.

I am still holding onto the hope that Steam will eventually do a "Trading Post" where you can post games you have that you'd like to trade or sell and then other people could browse it and accept your deal. Or even have game rentals like they have on some games for a few days. Like pay $5 and you then have access to a newly released game for a week...it would be nice if that $5 would go towards your purchases if you decided to, but I would never expect that. Part of me is mad about this and another part is glad that the console world is getting a taste of what I put up with on PC games.
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