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Anyone willing to answer a noob question?
How hard do you think it would be (for someone new to all this) to go from the very simple installation of an H220 to just cool the CPU, to expand to multiple radiators to cool a couple GPUs as well?
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Anyone willing to answer a noob question?
How hard do you think it would be (for someone new to all this) to go from the very simple installation of an H220 to just cool the CPU, to expand to multiple radiators to cool a couple GPUs as well?

In theory, a system like this H220 makes that much easier than traditional water cooling. You'll be fixed at a certain tube size, fitting size, etc. So you won't need to worry about deciding what tubing size you need, what fittings to use, etc. As a noob, I found that to be one of the toughest things about getting into water cooling. You have so many choices, and none of them are really wrong. smile.gif Having that decision taken out of your hands makes things much simpler. Just my $0.02CDN. smile.gif
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I wish I saw this before I bought my Corsair H100i but maybe next time. But if they released one with clear tubing and allow me to use mayhems dye I wold buy with my tax return.
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You can replace the tubing with anything that you want. I'm pretty sure that they used black since it inhibits growth since the black tubing blocks light.
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FYI, working on my living review on my blog site, I have the unboxing and installation done, just getting started on testing.

h220-coollighting.jpg

The tubing is 3/8"ID x 5/8" OD, so you could easily change it out to any sort of colored or clear tubing that you want as long as you kept to that standard size. It's a black thick walled tubing that is nice and flexible and easy to bend. The thick wall also is there to minimize evaporation so they can meet that 3yr no maintenance time-frame.

While I've never had black tubing before, I like it although I'm thinking UV green would be better.biggrin.gif
    
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Martin, I'm glad you like our black tubing. These kits are going to come stock with this tubing, but we will soon be offering our own colored tubing options that our customers can purchase separately. Let us know if you have any issues with the kit, or if there are any other suggestions on improving it for the end-user. We appreciate your input.
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Sorry I wasn't clear, I was trying to answer the CPU + SLI GPU Loaded at the same time question and thought the poster was referring to system 5 "At the end" which I noted in my response. I thought sys4 and 5 both were running 680s and missed the 7970s were running on the last system.

Perhaps I missed it?, but was system 4 loading GPU also??

I heard that burn test was being used, but I didn't hear anything about a GPU benchmark running concurrently.

Regardless, I was trying to figure it out using C/W and heat loads and cobbled together the following:
MCR-QP-Series-DATA.png

At 1200RPM an MCR220 has about a .095C/W

Assuming a 130W processor and two 195W video cards can add to upwards of 500W. Even if you reduce that to 80%, it's still a massive 400W worth of heat. Granted there isn't much data on "REAL LIFE HEAT LOADS", so going off a guess here and assuming 80% of max is a good guess.
400W * .095C/W = 38C, that is really way too high, you would definitely need higher fan speed..

At 2000RPM however the C/W gets much better at a .035C/W, 400W * .035C/W = 14C (still too high for my liking)

The kit fans run up to 1800RPM, so the C/W value must be between the .035 and .095. The change is .06C/W over 800RPM or .0075C/W per 100RPM. To estimate the 1800RPM I will take the .035C/W value and add .0075C/W x 2 or a C/W = .05

Now back to the assumed 400W heat load.

400W x .05C/W = 20C.

To get a 10C delta (which I would consider a good average), I would think you need to add one more MCR220QP and use full 1800RPM speeds which is more in line with the system 5 setup which is what I would do..thumb.gif

Actually I like a quad rad per component (Silence and a 5C water delta), but that gets tough keeping INSIDE a case..biggrin.gif
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yes you're right systems 1 thru 4 were only CPU loaded - system 4 had load from mosfets (chipset/mosfet block built-in the asus board) + residual load from the 2 GPU's.
It's still a relevant test as there is no real life application running CPU and GPU at the same time, even if there was I doubt that it would even remotely close to the load of a CPU benchmark such as Prime/CPUBurn + Furmark.

I did run System 5 during CES with heaven + CPU burn - temp's were good but we had 3 radiators in there.
Edited by stephenm - 1/28/13 at 4:23pm
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Thanks an Good point on the heat loads.

While I have always just used prime95 because it is well known as an extreme test for comparing blocks and such, but I am not sure what to really use to simulate real life heat loads or even what percentages to use of a benchmark.

Any suggestions?

Seems like prime95 alone on something like a 3930k @ 4.5 Ghz dumping out nearly 200W of heat is way beyond realistic, but I never really understood real life heat loads much.

Thanks
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I think Prime is a good CPU test - not really realistic but what's realistic isn't necessarily going to be good for evaluation. I.E. ideally you would want to run a game, maybe the demo of a game but the consistency in between in each test isn't going to be there, so I'd rather stick with a higher but consistent load.
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Noob,

planning a Prodigy build using this and wondering if the RAD will support CPU and a GTX 690 Hydrocopper?
    
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